CO - Mass shooting at King Soopers, 10 fatalities including 1 Boulder LEO, Boulder, 22 Mar 2021

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  1. Sprockett7701

    Sprockett7701 Well-Known Member

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    I remember trying to get a mentally ill friend of mine, admitted to a psych facility. She had previous stays there and previous notes on the police system regarding her mental health. I was told that until she harms her self or others there is nothing we can do...30 mins later she had self harmed with the mirror she had smashed because she thought her dead father was coming through it and had locked me out of the flat...
    It’s not easy to get mental health for people, willing or unwilling MOO
     


  2. MrsWatson

    MrsWatson Moira Rose's Wigs

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    According to the AA, linked above, p 5

    "Using law enforcement databases, investigators determined that Alissa had purchased a Ruger AR556 pistol on March 16, 2021."
     
  3. Dre

    Dre Well-Known Member

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    Ugh good god.
    I thought they retracted that it was an assault rifle? Scary stuff, just looking at it makes me cringe
    Ruger® AR-556® Pistol Centerfire Pistol Models
     
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  4. shotgun09

    shotgun09 Well-Known Member

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    Going grocery shopping for me will never be the same as it was. Those poor people.
     
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  5. Boxer

    Boxer Well-Known Member

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    Maybe private party.
     
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  6. LaborDayRN

    LaborDayRN In a world where you can be anything, be kind

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    I agree and above all, make sure they don't have access to weapons!
     
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  7. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    But where to get help? That's the problem. There is next to no help available.

    jmo
     
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  8. BayouBelle_LA

    BayouBelle_LA Well-Known Member

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    Boulder shooting suspect Ahmad Alissa bought rifle a week ago

    His sister-in-law, whose name is redacted, told investigators that she saw Alissa, 21, “playing with a gun she thought looked like a ‘machine gun'” in the days prior to the shooting, the court papers say.

    “Alissa had been talking about having a bullet stuck in the gun and was playing with the gun,” the affidavit reads.

    The document notes that the sister-in-law — who was tracked down by detectives at Alissa’s home on Monday night — was “hesitant to mention” what she’d seen.
     
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  9. StarryStarryNight

    StarryStarryNight Well-Known Member

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    <modsnip>

    I think the car the suspect drove to the grocery store was registered to his brother. That’s what police found in the parking lot.
     
  10. CHEL

    CHEL Well-Known Member

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    Oh I read that completely wrong. Thanks!
     
  11. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    Did the suspect work?

    I wonder where he got the money to buy this pistol?

    <modsnip>

    Jmho
     
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  12. IceIce9

    IceIce9 Well-Known Member

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    It sounds easy but it is not always! Speaking from personal experience here, several years ago we attempted to get help for someone who had definite mental health issues, a real danger to herself and others.

    She attempted to purposely run down someone with her vehicle, among other dangerous behaviors. She stated that she wished she had a gun and detailed what she would do. We finally were able to get her an involuntary 72 hour mental admission but she was released after 24 hours when she convinced the doctor that we were out to get her and that we had all lied about her to obtain the order.

    We begged for help and couldn’t get it. We were told she was an adult and unless she wanted help their hands were tied.

    She moved away and we lost touch with her. I won’t be surprised if we see her in the news at some point.
     
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  13. Dontknow?

    Dontknow? Well-Known Member

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    In AZ, not sure if it's the same for other states, family members can petition the court to keep their loved one in a mental hospital. You may need to petition over and over but it's possible to have them kept longer than 72 hours.
     
  14. coffeeandacig

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    Unfortunately, most times they end up killing themselves in the middle of nowhere.:(
     
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    303gmf Well-Known Member

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    303gmf Well-Known Member

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    Especially if you know they have the ability to buy weapons!!
     
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    mo_mom New Member

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    This path did not work for us. Some years ago, a relative repeatedly threatened to ‘take people out with him’; he got 72 hours and out after 2 days. At release, was recommended he get therapy; instead, left the state. He terrorized my mother and children for years afterward. We tried multiple times to get him committed again, without success. I am still fearful of him popping up.
    System isn’t built for it - an involuntary commit could be used to nefarious ends, but wish there was a better way.
     
  18. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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  19. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry to hear about your troubles, but this is so common. Yet people cry, "Why didn't the family do more?!?"

    Families do try! They are exhausted and frustrated from trying. There is no help to be had. Then, on top of that, people judge them for not doing anything.

    jmo
     
  20. Footwarrior

    Footwarrior Well-Known Member

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    The arrest warrant indicated that an AR15 type rifle and an automatic pistol were found at the scene.
     

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