CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #15

Discussion in 'Located Persons Discussion' started by ColoGirl, Aug 16, 2018.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Zella

    Zella Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,808
    Likes Received:
    12,728
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That makes sense--thank you! My dad was actually stationed at Ft. Bragg back in the 80s, but that was before I was thought of, so I've never been.
     
    human and OTPTarheel2018 like this.


  2. GutInstinct

    GutInstinct Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    580
    Likes Received:
    430
    Trophy Points:
    63
     
    katydid23 likes this.
  3. cbs

    cbs Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    94
    Likes Received:
    312
    Trophy Points:
    53
    Not sure if anyone posted this one yet..... It's different than the other two interviews I've seen.
     
  4. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    21,082
    Likes Received:
    106,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thank you, WSers who are posting about hair. This is all new to me - and useful.

    So...would the death-band on the girls' hair indicate how long they had been dead before they were found (or before they were put in the tank)? Could LE be able to tell if they had been stored in the truck for a certain number of hours?

    If it can be proven that the girls were deceased before SW arrived home, that would be the end of his defense that she killed them.

    This could be big, right?

    jmo
     
  5. Talisman

    Talisman Walk lightly in the spring;Mother Earth's pregnant

    Messages:
    555
    Likes Received:
    831
    Trophy Points:
    93
    :) Totally agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Meant no disrespect at all. :cool:

    Some very intelligent posters explained everything to me today about your post. They helped me to see beyond my defense of Shanann.
    My heart tends to take over sometimes.

    I extend an apology to you. :)

    Wish my heart & mind could co-exist on an even keel. Thank goodness for logical thinkers! ;)
     
  6. MerryB

    MerryB Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,278
    Likes Received:
    9,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They won’t indicate TOD per se, but if the girls were dead long before SW, hairs would begin to show signs of decomposition, which would disprove the claim that she killed them.
     
  7. Bill Carson

    Bill Carson Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,673
    Likes Received:
    8,535
    Trophy Points:
    113
    SBM.

    Yep. Sound like the perfect job for a mechanically-inclined loner.
     
  8. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

    Messages:
    37,489
    Likes Received:
    353,334
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think it's fairly safe to assume it is a fitted sheet because the affidavit says the pattern matches the top sheet and pillowcases that were found in the kitchen trash. Whether it's been reported that the sheet found near the oil tanks was a fitted sheet, I don't know.
     
  9. Bluefield

    Bluefield Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    962
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Do all miscarriages result in a lot of bleeding? If the baby dies in utero due to the mother being dead, what happens then?
     
  10. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

    Messages:
    9,555
    Likes Received:
    50,509
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It would stay there. If she were alive it would be removed to avoid sepsis.
     
  11. MerryB

    MerryB Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,278
    Likes Received:
    9,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My understanding is that it would not tell a number of hours; instead, it could disprove the claim that SW killed the girls IF the hair showed decomposition, for example, and SW's didn't. That would indicate that they were dead for a good amount of time (decomp had set in) before SW. But, it it was a matter of minutes to hours, it would not show through the hair samples. Does that make sense?
     
    Hazelnutty, Talisman, human and 5 others like this.
  12. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

    Messages:
    37,489
    Likes Received:
    353,334
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, at least CW spared Deeter. In another case I was reading about today, (Phillip Austin) he killed the family's two poodles. :(
    Phillip Austin - Wikipedia
     
  13. MerryB

    MerryB Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,278
    Likes Received:
    9,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is in the affidavit.
     
  14. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    21,082
    Likes Received:
    106,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, that makes sense. Thank you.

    Wow. I am very curious what the results will be.

    jmo
     
  15. MerryB

    MerryB Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,278
    Likes Received:
    9,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The article states that at this point, investigators aren't even sure if the hairs are from when SW and the girls were alive or not. If they rode in the truck at any point while alive, they might have left behind hairs. Testing will be able to show if the hairs show any signs of decomposition. They are also testing hairs from the home, including from bedding taken from the home.
     
  16. Mac1233

    Mac1233 Member

    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    95
    Trophy Points:
    13
    I think he'll definately want a plea deal. He's a coward, I believe he's shown that, imo one of the reasons he did what he did. I don't think he'd want all his lies and perhaps secret life style put out there in a court room for everyone to know. I don't think we'll ever know all the details of this family's demise, he'll go to his grave pleading this same sick story about it all. I pray every night for her family and that they are able to go on living without knowing the reasons why. It's never ending, and can drive you crazy.
     
  17. RickshawFan

    RickshawFan Verified Outdoor Recreation Specialist

    Messages:
    7,298
    Likes Received:
    28,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes. Like that! But I was also thinking of something very comprehensive, like emptiness in the person. She doesn't seem to me to have been "real" in so many ways.
     
  18. Mac1233

    Mac1233 Member

    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    95
    Trophy Points:
    13
    We know that the hair banding did not help prosecution in the Casey Anthony case though :sigh
     
  19. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

    Messages:
    37,489
    Likes Received:
    353,334
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The affidavit says bed sheet. It also says that the pattern matches that of the pillowcases and top sheet found in the kitchen trash can. What I am saying is that it is safe to assume it is a fitted sheet, but I haven't seen that reported. It may have been and I've missed it, I just don't remember.
    https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...18CR2003/001/Warrantless Arrest Affidavit.pdf
     
  20. Talisman

    Talisman Walk lightly in the spring;Mother Earth's pregnant

    Messages:
    555
    Likes Received:
    831
    Trophy Points:
    93

    Something tells me that it wouldn't bother him in the least. He has no remorse. None.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice