Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #19

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  1. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Wow. It didn’t occur to me that the idea of having a baby was to “save their relationship.” That absolutely strikes me as the logic behind it. I couldn’t make sense of why they would have another baby with their financial problems, but this would explain it for me.
     
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  2. Layla123

    Layla123 Well-Known Member

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    Im suspicious of the language he used, like “actively strangling”. Who says that? But I’m not sure if the confession in the affidavit is paraphrased or his actual words.
     
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  3. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yeah that sounds paraphrased as it’s a phrase that LE would use. If he said something like “I saw her strangling the kids,” paraphrasing it that way would be accurate. But I agree, most people wouldn’t say it like that, and if he did, it sounds completely contrived.
     
  4. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    Yes, it is like he rehearsed it in his head and looked for the most convincing words to say.
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    It would be very hard and take a long time. I don't think that was the motive.
     
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    OTPTarheel2018 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Baby 3 to “save the marriage” and while SW was planning the reveal, nursery, shopping...he’d have some “free time” for his extracurricular activities and he’d need overtime to pay for the baby...so he’d be near his AP. Well, at least the work AP.

    Maybe CW is like an old guy friend of mine. It was all about the pursuit and chase of a woman, well, many women. He won! Victory! He’d tire of them after a while and move on.
     
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  7. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I too know people like that. It’s certainly possible that he had additional reasons behind having another child other than the marriage aspect. But on its face, I (now) understand why he wanted another child, especially when taken in conjunction with his lecture.
     
  8. molly1255

    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    The old idealize, devalue and discard, JMO. I have a gg grandfather who disappeared in 1885. No one ever knew what happened to him until I figured it out.

    Through DNA, I found some funky cousin matches, contacted them and found they also descend from my gg grandfather. What I learned is he had a skill set that allowed him to find a good job anywhere and this definitely helped him avoid getting caught. His thing was to marry a woman, have a child with her and when the child was one or two years old, he'd disappear. His disappearances were always because he'd met a new target, who was clueless, and then he would do the same exact thing to her. He did this at least three times that I can prove.

    The best thing I can say about him is he didn't murder any of his wives and children. But he is proof that discarding wives and children is not a new thing. There is something very, very wrong with a person who has no compassion or concern for their own child, IMO.
     
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  9. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Possibly. But his job is in the field. He's supposed to be there at those sites. If he went elsewhere wouldn't he be worried that GPS would show him in some desolate lands nearby where LE might search?

    Maybe he never thought they would think to look into oil tanks. Maybe he planned initially to put his wife there too. But couldn't due to her weight:

    "But Mouse, you are not alone,
    In proving foresight may be vain:
    The best laid schemes of mice and men
    Go often askew,
    And leave us nothing but grief and pain,
    For promised joy!"

    It was actually smart to try to conceal them where he was already supposed to be.
     
  10. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    He sure was quick to come up with the best defense ever. by saying he killed his wife after the children, there are two separate events.

    Therefore the jury could be split like we are here, and whether the children were killed first or the wife was killed first. If that happens, that is concern of mine that we will end up with a split jury because they can't agree on which came first and therefore they will not charge on first-degree for all of them.

    thankfully there are lesser charges, but they could run concurrent versus consecutive, and if that happens, that will be what, 4 years?

    @gitana... how do they decide concurrent versus consecutive?
     
  11. ray9898

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    ....but I don't think he was scheduled to be at that site because the reports I read said he told LE his day started at a completely different location. He had to know that would raise a flag especially since the abnormal hour would stand out. Plus if he was cognizant over the GPS trail he had to know it would lead them right to the disposal site.
     
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    Wondering if he had “no game,” how he actively, relentlessly, and successfully pursued her (per SW)?
     
  13. BingoBongo

    BingoBongo Inquiring minds want to know.

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    I'm not sure this Yeager is as he says he is. Cannot find any real links to his qualification, and the ones he lists on his blog sound...almost made up, or at least, without any real merit/status/qualifications. Googling him brings up some interesting comments in another crime-type blog. Some sites list him as "Dr." and yet I can find no validation for that. And his Linkedin profile is, a bit, made-up of high sounding attributes that don't appear to amount to much.

    Not saying his summation of Watts is wrong, but I have serious doubts of his standing in the field of forensics.
     
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  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    People are emotional (rightly so) when it comes to crimes against children. The jury will be no different here, and it will bode very badly for the defense of C.W. I can’t imagine that any jury would buy his insane tale of Shanann doing his. He’s going to get atleast two first degree murder convictions for the children, if not for Shanann as well.
     
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    He seemed VERY nervous in his TV interviews IMO. In fact, his body language was a dead giveaway.
     
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    I guess I’m wondering then, what was the plan going to be (in re: to disposing of the bodies), if SW’s flight got home on time, and he killed them all? Where was he going to take the bodies, and when—still Monday I assume, maybe in the midnight to 5am hours?
     
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  17. MerryB

    MerryB Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
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    MerryB Well-Known Member

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    Agree.
     
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    In the interview, I recall AT explaining that SW had to do everything.
     
  20. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    I think it would be expected that they have his phone, his text and his internet searches. also, with a high-profile case, I would expect you would be on suicide watch.
     
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