Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #42

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  1. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    I've never heard of public praise being evidence that the person praising thinks the person being praised is inferior.
     


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    Not just her wants and needs. HE got healthy, fit and more attractive to others as well as enjoying the trips and other perks of her Thrive biz...Hes the one who chose NOT to live out his "dream" of being a Nascar mechanic. They could have stayed in NC, in HER beautiful home while he found a job he really wanted. She could do Thrive anywhere.
     
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    I think we've made our points - and colorful ones at that :)
     
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    I guess (at least physically), but it can be complicated. In many ways, I’d love to be more outgoing, but I’m never going to be. Deep down I don’t truly want to be. But I push it by pairing up with outgoing people. Going places I don’t necessarily want to. Then get out of sorts when I’m repeatedly uncomfortable. It’s something to think about re: CW, especially given it’s his first major relationship + issues (finances), stresses, and kids.
     
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    Thanks, dixiegirl1035! I think what you mean is for mediation, so it would be irrelevant during the trial? IMO, it could be raised in a dealth penalty case IF a mitigation specialist is brought in to try to reduce the sentence?
     
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    Since the quote you were responding to was directed at me I would like to point out that my opinions and thoughts are not based on CW's age, appearance, skin color or his economic status.
     
  7. gitana1

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    I'm in the same boat.
     
  8. gitana1

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    Yes. Unless there actually was significant exculpatory evidence.

    I think most of us realize that doesn't exist.
     
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    They aren't proof, no. But for every time someone says they don't prove anything, there are several who use them to point out positive aspects. It's not consistent.
     
  10. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    True. But they aren’t using those videos to make a murder case.
     
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    Thank you for sharing your opinion, its always interesting to hear varying points of view.
    My interpretation of the Santa video is different to yours, however I try to remain open-minded.
    I don't find anything remotely funny about children that are scared.
     
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    I hope no plea is accepted, unless he admits to killing all.
    Perhaps then, he can have better times, while in prison, for the remainder of his life.
    MOO.
     
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    I just can't decide if CW completely ambushed SW or if he said something evil first like, "I'm sorry I have to do this..." or "I'm sorry I killed the girls and now you..." My mind keeps going to :( either of those scenarios as the "emotional conversation." If he ambushed her or did in her sleep, then (imo) no words were exchanged. I don't think there ever was an actual "conversation" about separating or divorcing. My thought is any "emotional conversation" he was referring to only consisted of foreboding words or the actual act of him strangling her. :( I absolutely do not believe they talked about separating at 4 or 5am in the morning or whatever time he eventually settled on since he gave two different answers.
     
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    Yes, exactly.
     
  15. flourish

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    Thank you, me too. It's a pretty offensive suggestion.
     
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    o_O ok.
     
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    I go back and forth. It would be great to spare the families if there was a plea, but the selfish curiosity in me says it wouldn't satisfy all the questions.
     
  18. gitana1

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    Yeah. You know from what I've seen there's nothing to indicate she was abusive to CW. But you know se does appear to have been the more dominant partner and she said things to or about him that could come across as somewhat rude or demeaning, even if she felt she was joking.

    Sometimes people play along but inside they feel bad. I don't think she emasculated him at all. That's a powerful word. But he may have felt that way at times.

    And he may indeed have been attracted to her physically and possibly initially saw her as the extroverted, center of attention yin to his introverted, wallflower yang.

    But while opposites can attract and work well, you're showing how sometimes they don't.

    And I think that can even become dysfunctional. Resentment can brew.

    I have this feeling that maybe he went through the motions in life, really doing what he thought he was supposed to and maybe what others told him or indicated to him he should do. But he may not have had much true "agency" of his own.

    And that can rankle. It can cause frustration and simmering resentment and anger.

    But people evolve. Maybe as he lost weight, began dressing sharper and began getting attention that wasn't shadowed by his effervescent, social wife, he realized the possibility of a different life. Free. Doing what he wanted instead of what was expected or dictated.

    Given the right, toxic circumstances and character defect, such a realization can sometimes be deadly.

    That's what I'm working with at the moment.
     
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    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    There is nothing wrong with how one perceives the videos, it is what comes after that, that is an issue. Specifically, the connections that are being made.

    Saying the videos show abuse. That’s an opinion.

    Saying the videos show abuse, so they prove a motive, or even provide evidence that the victim is actually a murderer? That’s a different thing entirely.
     
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    Point being I've had a lot of education, training and experience with emotion coaching, empathy training, and working with troubled and "at-risk" young children, so that's likely to inform and influence my outlook and perspective. Because I truly know and appreciate the vitality of children having ownership of their bodies.
     
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