Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #6

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  1. Herat

    Herat Well-Known Member

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    I watched all 37 minutes of that tape, twice, and they did not fly over that well. They were quite a bit farther north of the area.

    The helicopter was just looking for areas where the roads were blocked off, likely following a scanner. They found a site where a culvert was being repaired & traffic was being re-routed.
     
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  2. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    What? Did he forget that he placed those precious, pure babies in oil tank to rot.
     
  3. Ronso

    Ronso Former member

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    Dig back through. A few pages back there's a link to his cached Instagram account where he was hawking the product, too. She wasn't the only one buying patches and selling them.
     
  4. Herat

    Herat Well-Known Member

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    11pm local time
     
  5. SaguaroSpirit

    SaguaroSpirit Happy times in Cactus Land

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    Crazy ladies...
     
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    I wonder if he promised his mistress he'd leave his family. His mistress had to know he had a wife. She's not like Amber Fry.
     
  7. BUF

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    Don't you think that the first thing SW would do when she got home was peak in at the girls?

    When they weren't in their beds and their blankets were gone, I think she probably flipped and that's when he killed her.
     
  8. Julessleuther

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    Really old member here, coming out of a long self-imposed exile to offer a few thoughts:

    1. <modsnip>First, I have lupus. Although some lupus patients can have brain "fog" or problems with memory, borderline personality disorder is not one of the symptoms or conditions of lupus. I've never been accused of having BPD as part of my diagnosis, nor has anyone I know. Also, I have worked in social media for 10 years. It is very common for people on social media (especially millennials) to portray a better lifestyle than they actually have because everyone wants to show that they have the perfect life, especially those selling a "lifestyle" product that encourages a better body, more energy, etc. It does not mean she was delusional, it is more of a marketing tool. I'm not saying it's right to do, just that it is very very common. To extrapolate that because she embellished her home life, she drove her husband to do this is outrageous. If you don't like what is going on at home, leave. Don't kill your entire family.

    2. I think you would be hard pressed to find a woman with lupus who would kill her own children, no matter the circumstances. Having a child while having lupus is extremely dangerous and high risk, and you go through a lot to have those children. There is no way a woman would go through the risk, worry of miscarriage, and stress of pregnancy and then kill their child. I was told (before I had my baby) that I should never get pregnant because it would be too high risk. I did get pregnant unintentionally and it was very high risk for both the baby and me the entire time. We only had one because of that risk and he was our little miracle baby. I could never do him harm, no matter what the circumstance, and I am sure SW felt the same way about her babies.

    3. I hope ME is able to pin down time of death for the girls. I agree with others that the flight delay really put a monkey wrench in his plans and he had to improvise. I live in AZ and we had very bad storms that Sunday night (it is monsoon season).

    4. I wonder if they were able to get GPS data from CW's car to pinpoint exactly where he drove to get an idea where to find the bodies, since it appears they had drones out before he confessed.

    5. I honestly think CW made many mistakes and they will come back to bite him. I don't think he knew about the neighbor's camera. The fact that he threw the sheets in the trash indicates he is not very clever--he did not really try to conceal evidence well. I wonder what they will find on those sheets. Were the girls beds made or unmade? I thought I remember from her friend Nikole's early statement that the beds were made. Why would he bother to make the beds himself if he is trying to imply she killed the girls in their beds. I am sure there will be plenty more bombshells by the time this is done and he has no chance of defense.

    6. I would not be surprised if within 3-4 days we see new counsel for CW, a high profile lawyer like Mark Geragos. His current lawyer is too small potatoes for this case.
     
  9. mountainguy777

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    It’s not reasonable for a mom that was happy Selling her product, lots of friends, coming home at 2am after a couple day work conference, and killing her kids. That’s just not reasonable.
     
  10. MCDRAW

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    I thought I read where this expert was already banned from testifying in court from an earlier case.
     
  11. Hazelnutty

    Hazelnutty Innocent Bystander

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    I completely agree. He would rather face judge, jury & executioner than dear old mom & dad.
     
  12. mickey2942

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    Three years to trial date? I am still waiting for "Justice for Nubia Barahona", there is still no trial date, and her death occurred in 2011.

    If the trial is three years away, I believe CW will commit suicide, he won't be on a 3 year "suicide watch", or even be in protective custody in jail that long. Jail is where people are held before trial, prison is after the sentencing process.
     
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  13. Alethea

    Alethea Verified Attorney

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    This is what it comes down to for me: think of all the elaborate mourning and grieving rituals we have. Every society has its own mourning and grieving rituals. Everyone grieves differently, but almost everyone agrees grief and mourning are real human experiences that deserve respect.

    Now think about dumping your own child's lifeless body in a vat of crude oil. It's inhumane, there's no reasonable excuse. You have to be a monster to do it.
     
  14. cynsational

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    Maybe the grave was dug a few days before the crime while she was out of town?
     
  15. Missti

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    So they confirmed he was actively having an affair...has it been confirmed it was a woman?
    What do we know? There are way too many posts to follow and catch up.
     
  16. CJS4

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    No that was her friend Nikoles car that left at that time after dropping her off from
    Airport
     
  17. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    Just like in his interview, he said coming back to the house, it was like a "Ghost Town"----Freudian slip central...
     
  18. mountainguy777

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    All he had to do was walk out the damn door and have his mistress. That’s all. You don’t kill your babies.
     
  19. chi123

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    Especially with the SM presence of him and his wife. It is exceedingly unlikely she didn't know he was married, or even that SW was pregnant. All there FB, IG and Twitter profiles were public and open for anyone to see.
     
  20. Doghairrules

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    Did she have a source for that? Or just speculating?
     
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