CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #9

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  1. MerryB

    MerryB Well-Known Member

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    Was this something S.W. posted regarding C.W.? Apologies if this has been answered.
     


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    CFlo Well-Known Member

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  3. vaporlass

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    This is what I think ... I could be wrong of course.
    I think she was vulnerable and maybe insecure, definitely not feeling well with Lupus diagnosis when they met. He could be the type of person who used this to his advantage to sweep her up and be her Savior. Afterwards of course reminding her of ALL that she had put him through during the worst part of her Lupus as well as reminding her of all he had done for her.
    I think Thrive was his idea, not hers. He wanted her under his thumb at home serving him.
    He couldn’t keep close tabs on her if she worked outside the home.
    I think he set her up in the business expecting a windfall but things didn’t turn out the way “he” planned.
    The best master manipulators always make sure that it appears the other spouse is in control and even the other spouse often believes it.
    Years of psychology and sociology taught me a lot - not to mention this website and crime stories but I’m just making assumptions - guesses - and yes, judgments based on my experiences and what I’ve read and learned.
    I could be totally wrong.
    Hopefully the whole truth and nothing but the truth will come out in the trial but it rarely does unfortunately.
     
  4. Ronso

    Ronso Snake Hugger

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    My narcissist ex helped me through everything in the beginning. They call it "love-bombing". I guess because he helped me through everything in the beginning, he couldn't possibly have raped me later(except he did).
     
  5. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    So let us pretend SW killed her children.

    So CW takes his precious children and climbs up one at a time and drops them into oil. Two times, climb up and down. He loves them soooooo much.

    He digs a grave and buries the monster SW. Hi ho hi ho. It’s off to work I go.

    With allllll of this emotion, he has some nice interviews. No distraught. He knew his monster wife killed the kids, Oh well. That’s done.
     
  6. cottonweaver

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    It wasn't really sarcasm it was literally what the previous poster had posted several times.

    I just added the "okay" part as my only response to it, as a kind of "No Comment" response.
     
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    And, time to put the house on the market.
     
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  8. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    I find it absolutely incredible that the could give those interviews, knowing what he knew.
    That is some seriously mixed up behaviour.
     
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  9. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    so is the notion that mom would be less upset if he only murdered his wife and stuck his kids in some oil

    what is amazing to me is it appears there is a notion out there that in a story that is international news for a week needs multiple murder one charges and the other ones to get less time

    that makes no sense

    once one confesses to murder and moving bodies around there a lifer ..

    he saved all that -- he told them what he did

    you guys are much better at SM than I the private interactions off the Thrive stuff is a completely different story imo

    and yes, most people who commit murder , generally speaking try to hide it

    we all do true crime == the astonishment that a husband that murdered his wife 12 hours earlier and tossed his kid in oil is getting on national tv is gonna give it a whirl and see if he can get away from life in prison

    piling up charges (these charges ) is not gonna change anything - one confession of first degree murder is usually a rap in terms of never getting out

    lots of folks imo are giving this dude way to much intellect

    obviously the status of their future was getting closer to having to be dealt with .

    appreciate all your jaz
     
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    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    Yes! On the second day his family is missing, he is talking about moving on.
     
  11. searchinGirl

    searchinGirl Former Member

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    I think it’s possible that SW and C.W. were on a trial separation for the summer. And, she came back here to lay claim to the house and the children. Perhaps in an attempt to save their family.

    She suspected him of the affair, and if she stayed in NC with the kids she could look forward to hassling him for child support for the next 20 years; or she could come back here, live in the house he was paying the mortgage on but she owned jointly with him, and stand a much better chance of collecting the child support if he lived nearby.

    I think this could have been the trigger. He had probably already told his AP he was going to separate from her. I think he probably wanted SW to turn around and go home to NC. But it was just not going to work out for him if she stayed. He would have likely lost his AP. That’s the choice he made.
     
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    How do you explain that numerous people have stated she told them of a separation and/or marital issues? She wasn't ambushed by that news. She spent 5 weeks away from him. She kept up the facade for the public but was more forthright with "her people". She was running a business and needed to sell the dream. I don't believe she was as attached this him toward the end as you suggest.
     
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    I think he could have claimed some sort of mental defense until he said SHE killed the kids. Now it just seems too stupid to consider his story with a straight face, that he got the word from the family to try the story of "just killing her".
     
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    Without discussing it with supposedly missing Shanann first.
     
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    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    The thirty minutes friends who they spent a lot of time with lately described him as shy

    the question (very interesting ) by the female reporter in that piece asked if he seemed to gain more confidence in himself - they replied no

    the notion that he was confident and manipulative is certainly not evident in the presentation either - frankly he was nerdy
     
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    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    pushed him away

    fear of intimacy and if one goes there the relentless fear of being abandoned
     
  18. CFlo

    CFlo Well-Known Member

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    No apologies necessary but I do TY for being so kind. We are all in this together, and I’m afraid for a very long haul.
    This was a FB post by SW. it didn’t reference anyone or anything, just a mem I captured about two minutes before I saw that he confessed. She made no comment.
    I had just gotten to WS having taken a break from Mollie and was ss for reference. Now given its now a remberence account, a little glad I did. It was posted 8/12 8pm, not sure if that was EDT or CO or AZ time... that’s the date and time that shows on my screenshot. I’d post but not sure that allowed. I turned this in on 8/15, but knew they’d probably already subpoena all FB data from SW, CW, and all relations to.
     
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    I'm a member who hasn't posted in, well, years but this case is compelling. From the little information available, I think it highly likely that the girls were killed before SW. Of course, that may not be able to be proven. IMO, their financial troubles were not a thing of the past but very much a day to day issue. A 400k mortgage is NOT small potatoes. Add to that a third high risk pregnancy AND an affair and you have a recipe for disaster. I believe CW wanted out without any responsibility for an ex and kids. He also may have harbored extreme anger towards SW. Of course, these are my gut feelings based on what is known. It will be interesting to see what the prosecution has as evidence. Regardless, it is a terrible tragedy
     
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  20. cottonweaver

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    let's not forget that CW gave several versions in the space of one hour on the afternoon of the 13th
    Version 1- to first attender Coonrod and maybe another to NUA
    Another to Det Baumhover less than an hour later . ( it was inconsistent to what he told Coonrod earlier)

    Then different spins to 2 or 3 TV channels on 14th, one after the other.

    Next, just 48 hours later on 15 August between a series of police interviews, he tells a whole new story once he's been presented with damning evidence

    ( Not including also - repeated denials of an affair
    and not even convincing a couple of his family friends - the Thayers.)

    He'll probably come up with even more for the trial
     
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