Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #49

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  1. SouthernSleuther

    SouthernSleuther Well-Known Member

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    Amen. It’s the most bizarre thing I have ever seen.
     


  2. zea mays

    zea mays Well-Known Member

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    I've only seen this claim from those who purport to have heard it from the Watts family. I have no idea how they would know.
     
  3. Jupiter05

    Jupiter05 Well-Known Member

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    Everyone is just horrified and shocked. I have two grandchildren Bella and CeCe's ages and another on the way so this hit my family and myself hard. No one in my circle really offers up opinions and CW is only referred to as the father who murdered his wife, unborn baby and children. We all want to know why. It's scary and unnerving to everyone that this happened in a nice neighborhood to a family that had all of the markings of being normal. There is more chatter about motive and theories on the internet and social media. I think it is too close and too sad.

    If anything, this has made me a more loving and engaged Mother, Mother In Law, and Grandmother. A better neighbor. A better friend. A person more aware of the people in my life and any difficulties they may be going through.
     
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  4. Tortoise

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    No he's basing it on what mother said.
     
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  5. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    A quick checklist of NPD from today's DM:

    'Many of us might never have imagined we’d come across individuals who don’t feel remorse or guilt for their actions, and who will do whatever it takes to gratify the demands of their egos by securing money, attention, contacts, sex, attention and possessions – all without giving any thought for how their actions might affect others.

    If you are having any doubts about whether or not you are involved with someone with NPD, these are the five key warning signs to look out for.

    1. Emotional insecurity
    2. Extreme sense of entitlement
    3. They argue like a 5 year old
    4. Pathological lying
    5. Blaming you/others for their problems

    Are YOU dating an narcissist? | Daily Mail Online
     
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  6. Serena Angelique

    Serena Angelique Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry but I did laugh at “ highly esteemed podcasters being on the case”—no, it’s not funny, but that seems to factor into some people’s reasoning.
     
  7. Serena Angelique

    Serena Angelique Well-Known Member

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    No. They were not. They claimed that his legal defense was a kid “sucking on his tie” the whole time and that everyone else seemed incompetent too.
     
  8. Best of What's Around

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    Cindy claims to have asked the defense attorneys if there had been one and she claims they said no. This is secondhand from the podcaster friend.
     
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  9. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Good point. We don't really know if that is exactly how that conversation went. Nor do we know if the Defense team just answered with a blanket 'no', to shorten the conversation since they had no plan to answer anything further about it.
     
  10. Tortoise

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    So where is that grain of salt 'emoticon'? Oh yes ----> .
     
  11. Colorado303

    Colorado303 Verified Insider Watts Case

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    I suspect Mommy Watts is quite enjoying all the attention. She was a piece of work before but can you imagine what she's going to be like now that she has proof the world will revolve around her?
     
  12. Hazelnutty

    Hazelnutty Kindness Matters

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    From the outside looking in -- the answer is nothing. Shannan did nothing to cause Cindy to behave the way she did. (still does) I don't believe Shannan was aggressive at all. Shannan was a beautiful young lady who turned CW's head. Cindy wasn't equipped to handle a beautiful, normal, intelligent, independent thinking female taking her son's attention away from Mama. And Shannan was not the type to allow anyone to disrespect her , which I believe Cindy did (does). Shannan stood up for herself. I'm thinking no one in Cindys family would have the nerve to do so.

    Shannan may have been assertive. She was a go- getter . I believe Cindy was jealous.

    Not a VI. Just moo
     
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  13. violet101

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    I think back to that story about his family crying during his plea and now it all makes sense. They weren’t crying because of the girls being murdered, they were crying because they believed CW was admitting to something he didn’t do.

    What’s funny is the Watts were fine with the defense paying for them to fly out last minute and stay in a hotel, but now they are criticizing them. They even said that “tie licker” attorney put them in the same hotel and floor as SW’s family and they had to move last minute. Everything is about them.
     
  14. Love Never Fails

    Love Never Fails Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.
     
  15. MassGuy

    MassGuy On Time Out

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    Haaaa. Second hand information from a dubious source. :eek::rolleyes:
     
  16. idfinch

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    Not one single darn thing IMO. Determination, confidence, outgoing personality, exuberance... none of those equal aggressiveness or anything negative.

    CW's mother (and I'm guessing his sister too) are unable to see women as anything other than domineering, controlling, aggressive, difficult competition. Just like themselves. As my own beloved mom would have said, "The world is your mirror, Mama Watts."

    Wow, this is really insightful and I never thought of it this way. I can completely see this and it opened my eyes to another layer. My MIL had a very volatile love/hate relationship with my FIL and would alternately praise and demolish him depending on the day. Her golden boy firstborn son was the only male figure she could emotionally control to behave and think in the "right way" in her mind, in the process. Hmmm. Something to think about. Thank you for this!
     
  17. esmerelda

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    Catching up tonight. I seemed to have seen something mentioned about a letter CW wrote, claiming if anything happened to him to look at SW? I don't know if this has been mentioned but my first thought was he was setting the stage. It happened on the 6 week trip?
     
  18. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Prosecution does not need to prove motive here, and I believe DA answered this question in his presser when he stated that they had no confidence that CW would/could tell the truth if he allocuted. MOO
     
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    Is there a Websleuths podcast tonight on this? I feel like I read that 48 pages ago when I was half asleep, but this thread has moved fast today.
     
  20. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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