GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #58

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  1. amiless

    amiless Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that did not strike me as rebellious behavior either. I think that's one of the reasons why that part stood out to me.
     
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  2. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    I'm still not sure that the 2017 search wasn't a typo. There were at least 3 others in the document. For instance, on page 1892 (Discovery) it says:
    I spoke with Nicole Atkinson, via telephone, regarding the events that occurred on the evening of 10/12/18 while Shanann was still in Arizona. The conversation was audibly recorded.

    Obviously, SW wasn't alive in October and they meant August.
     
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  3. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    He started at Anadarko approx Jan 2015 per the bankruptcy documents filed June 2015. MOO
     
  4. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yup. This is illustrated with his text conversation with Shanann’s friend Cassie on the day he killed them.

    Chris: “I really don’t want you to think I’m a bad person Cassie.”

    Cassie: “Right now I don’t care about you or your relationship, or what type of person you are or not, or what I think of you and I’m not trying to be rude when I say that.”

    Page 2125
     
  5. Tortoise

    Tortoise Well-Known Member

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    I happen to be right on that page now. It's discovery page 679, and/or pg 602 of 1960.
     
  6. Dum-Dum Sucker

    Dum-Dum Sucker Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.

    Here's what I found on Discovery Page 461:

    "JEREMY said that SHANANN was always kind of strange to him, with all of her health problems. He said that she pronounced her name SHA-NAAN but her mom pronounced it SHANNON. JEREMY said that he felt SHANANN was kind of rebellious."

    eta: JINX, @MassGuy !
     
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  7. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Amanda's too! Besides Thayer and McMahon, the attorney representing the Watts in the HOA was named Amanda. MOO
     
  8. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    Good on Cassie.
     
  9. Tortoise

    Tortoise Well-Known Member

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    I think it was a male neighbor or the man of a couple they knew who said that and he didn't appear to enjoy Shan'ann's company, judging by his comments. Possibly name beginning with a J.
     
  10. Mo Thuairim

    Mo Thuairim Well-Known Member

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    CW's termination letter from Anadarko, received in jail. Short and sweet.
    Discovery page 855 (PDF p744)
     

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  11. Dum-Dum Sucker

    Dum-Dum Sucker Well-Known Member

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    I know, right?

    O/T
    It's like, Hi, I'm Darryl, and this is my brother Darryl, and my other brother Darryl. (Bob Newhart Show)
     
  12. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Poor SW was so confused by CW wishy washy behavior that she was walking on eggshells. Citing the late arrival, she also told her friends she would not wake CW when she got home. SW reportedly spent the night on the couch upon returning from NC, and 2nd night she went to her bed and CW went to basement to sleep. I'm therefore not convinced he was sleeping in the master bedroom on 8/13. MOO
     
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  13. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Haaaa I know. She was just trying to find her friend, a friend whose life may be in danger.

    She had no time for his nonsense about what people would think of him.

    Not only is he stupid and evil, but completely tone deaf as well.
     
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  14. Best of What's Around

    Best of What's Around Well-Known Member

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    Maybe, but I can't remember who pointed it out but they said it was at the top of the list so it would have had to have been first in sequence...unless the typo then led to a sequencing mistake. She also searched CW I believe in January of 2018 IIRC?
     
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    Johnny1181 Former Member

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    PommyMommy... you are a treasure for real!

    So while the markets been up, it takes a while to accumulate a large sum in a 401K. Not sure what Andarko matched, but they must have been contributing a lot on their own to his account. And there are limits to what one can borrow.

    CW put the owness of the loan on Shanann. This simply was not possible for her to do on her own. In fact only he could have done it. And that loan would have had to have been repaid through a committed payroll deduction.
    Not entirely sure where I'm going with this, except at the very least he is a liar who enjoys the victim mode. I'm not buying the financial crisis lines from him. I could even fathom that Shannan did not know about the loan taken at all.
     
  16. Jupiter05

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    The last pages in the documents where the text messages were laid out in a timeline really made me sad. Poor Shanann and those poor babies. If only her flight was cancelled, I wonder if the outcome would have been different.
     
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    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    Are 401Ks portable from job to job?
     
  18. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I doubt it. Same story, different day.
     
  19. k-mac

    k-mac Well-Known Member

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    im 25 pages behind :confused:
    apologies for being out of sinc.
    ive just had a lightbulb thought reading posts from previous thread.

    chris took the girls to the party in shananns white lexus.
    the baby sitter tells LE he left party at 3.30.
    chris tells LE he left party at 5 ish.

    an hour and a half he doesn't want to be accounted for.
    its 45 minutes each way to that oil field from his house.

    I will put money on ...he drove out there in shananns car with the girls and confirmed to himself his plan.

    he got home ,went to the fridge threw the kids some cold pizza and got the facetime done with nan and pop and got the show on the road.

    moo
     
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  20. Tortoise

    Tortoise Well-Known Member

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    Although, I read here earlier that there was no movement recorded on the main floor between the time Shan'ann came home and shortly before CW left. I think that probably means the basement door wasn't opened during that time so he was on the upstairs level the whole time.
     
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