GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #59

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  1. Allabouttrial

    Allabouttrial Well-Known Member

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    Found it! upload_2018-11-27_3-27-13.png

    Pg. 2106 of the Discovery.
     


  2. kiwilaura

    kiwilaura Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't it all hand written? I may be imagining it but I am sure it was!
     
  3. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, as his family interjected and tried to confuse things and get things off track to protect him, it is all very clear.

    It was all very clear when it happened to many of us, but we were not allowed to speak of it.

    But now we can.
     
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  4. Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats

    Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats Well-Known Member

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    Yes, hand written
     
  5. Allabouttrial

    Allabouttrial Well-Known Member

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    Although looking at it again I think she may have been wondering if that was the case rather than him actually saying it.

    upload_2018-11-27_3-29-40.png
     
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    ZsaZsa Well-Known Member

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  7. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    The podcast MG allegedly had a copy of the letter presumably provided to them by Cindy and/or CW family.
     
  8. Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats

    Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats Well-Known Member

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  9. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    He deserves all the credit in the world for his handling of this case.

    This quote makes me happy:

    “We throw that phrase around all the time — life in prison without the possibility of parole — but try to imagine what that is really like," Rourke said. "The only physical contact you're ever going to have again is with prison guards, you're never going to have a romantic connection with anyone ever again, you're going to be surrounded by barbed wire, and you know the last thing you are going to see is the inside of a prison before they drag you out in a box.”
     
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  10. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    She did not say 'I think he'd abort if I said it was ok', she said, 'he would'.
     
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  11. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    Thank you. So this was also before his media interviews on Tuesday night. What was she doing awake at those hours on a week night? I think CW had already said he wasn't coming into work due to wife and kids being "missing" but wouldn't NK be expected at the office on Tuesday morning? Why was she taking calls from CW between midnight and 2 AM?
     
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  12. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    I can't get the thought out of my head that the entire family, Chris his mother and his sister and his father annihilated her. They all did.
     
  13. Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats

    Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats Well-Known Member

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    Just what Amstorrs
    said on page 1, he is problem solving , trying to eliminate the obstacles to the new life he wants.
     
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    So, how far along are you all? I'm on pg 993, had to share lol (The first accusation the kids aren't CWs but are, in fact, the Zodiac Killers?

    On September 20, 2018, at approximately 1730 hours, I was advised by Weld County Dispatch to contact Daniel Fronzerick
    via phone regarding information on the Chris Watts investigation. I called Daniel at who said he resides in
    New York City and had a theory about this case. Daniel believed there was a connection between Chris Watts and the
    Zodiac Killer from the early 1970's. Daniel then continued to make several incoherent statements regarding Chris's late wife
    possibly being a lover of a male named James Darnell Olson who also may have links to the Zodiac killer. Additionally, Chris
    may not be the father of these children and that the Olson party may be their biological father.
    Daniel did not provide any factual information about the matter. He said this was only a theory and I could take it for what it
    was worth.
    Nothing further at this time
    Sergeant Albert 976
    Frederick Police Department
     
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  15. Allabouttrial

    Allabouttrial Well-Known Member

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    Yes and that could still mean she was guessing. I'm sure not everyone goes over every little detail when sending a message..........
     
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  16. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    His theory is as good as some of the theorists in Facebook groups supporting CW and demonising his victim.
     
  17. Amstorrs

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    Sociopaths are actually more likely to be able to assimilate into normal society. The characteristics of their personality disorder are not as severe as a psychopath. Over 90% of psychopaths have a criminal history of some sort. They are less able to contain their issues. It makes them much more dangerous but also easier to spot.

    Sociopaths are pathological liars. They have trouble keeping close friendships. They are intense and impulsive. They do not show remorse. They tend to come of as charming or intelligent, but it’s a facade, and underneath they are usually the opposite but can “fake it” for a while until you get to know them better.

    It’s very scary, they are very good at pretending.
     
  18. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Lol. Somehow I missed that, which is probably a good thing as I wouldn’t have a working laptop anymore.

    It’s also a good thing I wasn’t the detective taking that phone call:

    Detective: “Daniel, I’m going to need you to walk to the nearest window and open it for me.”

    Daniel: “Ok, it’s open. What do you want me to do now?”

    Detective: “Jump.”
     
  19. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    It could mean that she was guessing but we will never know. I am sure that everyone who supported CW went over every little detail in her videos, though.
     
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  20. SaguaroSpirit

    SaguaroSpirit Happy Times in Cactus Land

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    Yes they did, and they should all be held at least morally accountable. I hope they never have another happy or peaceful moment on this Earth. They are nothing but dogcr*p on the bottom of humanity's collective shoe. I spit! They disgust and enrage me!
     
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