GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #69

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  1. Best of What's Around

    Best of What's Around Well-Known Member

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    It's been reported that it will be 2 audio files totaling about 5 hours and a CBI report, among a couple other less important things. No video.
     
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    Huh? Why do comments get construed the wrong way? All I asked is what did Shannon say that put him in a rage? OK? It was mentioned awhile back and I did not catch it and wanted to know what the words were. GEEZ
     
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    It has been widely reported that it is supposed to drop at 8 am MST - which is 10 am EST here in the US.
     
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    Only audio and transcripts, I think. 10am EST, I believe via CORA request only. At least this is how I'm understanding it.
     
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    I am not sure I am buying the timeline. It sounds like he is making it sound like he killed Shanann after she threatened that he wouldn't be able to see the kids.

    Tbh that's what I thought might have happened right back at the beginning.

    HOWEVER, CW's text to the coworker telling him he could manage Cervi by himself absolutely and firmly makes me feel that it was all pre-planned.

    Which is why I can not trust what he is saying now. It doesn't fit with other known facts and I think only serves as an opportunity for CW to build further rage against Shanann from his posse, or it is a way he is still trying to reduce his culbability and garner sympathy.
     
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    I would like to see the transcript.
     
  7. Artis

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    Thanks for that link. Never heard of that case and how utterly bizarre. Sort of some karmic tie between those two.

    Stephen King has always given me the creeps and I think he is a creep. I always wondered about people who can write stuff like that.

    These are people but they're not like you or me. They minds work differently. They won't make sense to us.

    ^^THIS

    Sam Vaknin, the infamous narc, diagnosed as a psychopath, prolific writer and YTber, even claims he's not human. That would require a working definition of "human" but I get what he's saying. It was Vaknin who a little girl looked at and said, "You're not a person, you're a scanning machine"! He's also the subject of "I, Psychopath".

    Whether these are humans or not is up for debate but they appear human and that's what's important for the rest of us. Wolves in sheep's clothing.
     
  8. Gardenista

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    Are you in any of the Watts FB groups? Many of them filed CORA requests and IMO, that's going to be the fastest way to get the info. The downside is we won't be able to discuss it here until it is released by MSM.
     
  9. mickey2942

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    We really don't know. But having lived with an emotional abuser, almost anything that you say, or don't say, do, or don't do, sets them off into a rage. Apparently, CW states he killed SW and the children because SW said she wouldn't let him see the kids. This made him kill her in a fit of rage.

    Probably all made up crap. Who believes a word that CW says?!
     
  10. kay74

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    When a man tells his wife he is having an affair and he wants a divorce and she says you'll never see your kids, a normal response from a husband would be "Fine" and then get up and leave. Leave the house. Not kill her! What did he expect her to say "okay go to your lover and we'll share custody." He said the worse thing ever to her.
     
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  11. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    Yeah and he followed that with "that was fun", meaning it wasn't. Probably thought how he was glad he didn't have to deal with that anymore.
     
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    I stumbled over a video last night that said exactly that. That the parents were liars for saying that. I hit the thumbs down and ran away.
     
  14. mickey2942

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    I do not buy for one second that this was not premeditated murder, I believe that the children were dead by the time SW came home.
     
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    MsGazette Just call me Ms G

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    I’m sure this has been posted with a million other articles but I figured I would post just in case. It does mention that he smothered the girls at the oil site, which has been a subject of discussion. Whether it’s the truth, I don’t think we’ll ever know 100%. I just have this echo in my mind of the investigator asking CW straight out if he put the girls in the tank alive and he was like, “no, oh God no.” It’s chilling, like putting the babies in there wasn’t awful enough. He is one messed up monster.

    Chris Watts' 4-Year-Old Daughter Pleaded for Her Life After Watching Him Kill Sister: Lawyer
     
  16. Artis

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    Yep. One they were all gone in NC, he made up his mind. He didn't want them back and it was out with the old and in with the new. Simple as that.
     
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    He played the role to the hilt so he probably did think he "loved" them. All he could is mimic what he thought love was supposed to look like (Shanann). Remember how he Googled (re: NK) how he was supposed to feel if someone told him they loved him?
     
  18. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    True. If I ignore the discovery document, ignore what they said on national television, ignore the lies, ignore the victim bashing, ignore every single thing they have said or done, then yes.

    I can’t though.

    Shanann suffered in life, and is still paying the price in death.

    She may not be here to pay that price, but her family sure as hell is.

    Because of them.

    Vile people.
     
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    It astounds me that they will harp about her job, but never his. Seems to me that participating in fracking is a whole lot worse than vitamin patches.
     
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    Totally agree.
    CW was a complete coward.
    He wanted the family gone but darn the luck, he had to kill them to get rid of them.
    Of course he didn't argue, make up and have sex, and argue again. He waited until he didn't have to confront her to kill her.
    The trip with the girls to the oil tanks, if it happened at all, was only him trying to get the balls up to do what he had planned.
    Afterwards he was pumped. Totally pumped up at having succeeded. That explains his actions when he first got back to house. That explains his attitude on the porch interviews. He was flying high, inwardly proud of himself.
    He was a complete coward who cracked quickly under LE's pressure.
    Coward, wuss, weakling....
     
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