GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #69

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  1. SBTrinity

    SBTrinity Member

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    BBM above

    They may love their son, but they resented and hated Shannan more. That hate, and the fact that CC and Bella were HER kids, overshadowed that they were his too. IMO
     
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  2. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    I have not watched this. Somebody tell me what it says, lol. :p



    Nice to see you! :)
     
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    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Welcome to Websleuths, SBTrinity! :)
     
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    k-mac Well-Known Member

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    so you don't see any pre-med BB?
     
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    I find it weird that immediately after he began to set up his disposal site arrangements with his coworker, he then placed a call to Shanann's mother and spoke to her for ~12 minutes. What was he calling her about and why immediately after setting his plan in motion? Later in this exchange, he told Roberts specifically not to come out to the site.

    Also in the midst of that exchange with Roberts, CW was google searching "dead sea scrolls" which was the subject of one of the "magically recovered" deleted texts that NK provided to LE. This was all after he was taking pictures of chicken breasts and the fridge temperature reading (obviously to show off to his diet micromanaging mistress). The timeline is odd as the chicken images are listed before the texts sequentially, but the timestamp places them after the arrangements were made with Roberts. Either way, all of that along with the Dead sea scrolls google search suggests that he quite possibly set this plan in motion while/after being in contact with NK. I wonder what they talked about.

    Source: Discovery page 2117
     
  6. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    The murderer said he cut himself shaving. The cops didn’t buy it.

    Murder of Allison Baden-Clay - Wikipedia
     

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    Best of What's Around Well-Known Member

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    Here's all my notes:

    Nothing of interest. Blah Blah Blah
     
  8. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    I think the act of coming clean is designed to make him look like a good guy, even if the details don’t.

    I do think that he thinks, that this will somehow save his soul.

    It won’t. It can’t. There is no making up for this.

    The horrific details as to Bella’s last moments, are worse than any of us imagined at any point.

    We were horrified when we found out via the autopsy results, that Bella had struggled to survive.

    That pales in comparison to what he now claims to have happened.

    I don’t think this is a lie, that he believes somehow makes him look better.

    I think it’s likely the truth, that makes him look like the monster he is.

    We’ll be better able to gauge what is true, and what is likely false, when the interview is released tomorrow.
     
  9. Inthedetails

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    So....he was at the house with SW's friend Nickole and with LE that afternoon saying, "Gee, I don't know where she is or why she isn't answering her phone," when he had, that morning, called the school to dis-enroll the girls.

    And he didn't think anyone would find that out?

    What were his plans to explain their disappearance? That hasn't been answered.

    jmo
     
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    Once again, the blame is on Shannan. "Oh look, she threatened me, never to see my children again!". It's quite similar to the first story, where he just killed her allegedly out of revenge, after she strangled the kids, after he told her, he wanted a separation. And how many people believed this? This guy can absolutly not be trusted... he lied once, he will lie once again. It would not surprise me, if Bella had really witnessed something. But if he had ever loved her and little CeCe, he would have turned himself in - or at least left them unharmed, not killing them and shoving their dead bodies forcefully into big oil tanks. Think about this... you would probably not even do this to your pet! Hi did this to his own flesh and blood...
     
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    And how stupid is it to kill your wife because she is going to take your kids away and then kill the kids? It doesn’t make any sense. He may be one of the worst people to have ever walked the earth.
     
  12. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    I recall CW explanation to investigators for canceling school enrollment was that house was on the market, and they expected to be moving soon. He tried to back this up with texts to his realtor that morning.

    The only thing I will ever believe from CW is that SW did not kill her children. That's it.
     
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    Exactly!! He still is telling bulls....
     
  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Logically, it makes zero sense.

    This is something that I am very skeptical of.

    Of course it’s theoretically possible, that it wasn’t so much the threat of her taking the kids (if this even happened), but the act of defiance, and her standing up to him.

    It’s going to take a lot for me to believe his account in this regard.
     
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    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    @ 25:43
     
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    Artis Well-Known Member

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    That's a great observation. If we think about whispering in the situation he was in and what it was he was telling, what does that mean? I'd say shame. Shame not being the same as remorse which requires a conscience. I think if we could look inside CW he'd be 90% shame and some other area looking for excitement along with some very serious rage over all that shame. That would be about all that's in there. He has no sense of himself and is completely dependent upon what other people think of him. I think he whispered not because he felt badly about Shanann and the babies but because it made him look so bad. IOW, he doesn't feel sorry about murder but about it not being acceptable and therefore he is not acceptable. There's nothing in there that can feel badly for anyone else because he has no empathy. All he had was image and he blew it.
     
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  17. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    This is what I heard beginning at 25:41.

    We've expressed it's our guess that there was another person that they are looking into or investigating that would have required enough time to either determine if charges should be brought or if that was not an avenue to be explored and we're unsure at this point if that's an ongoing investigation or not so we don't want to go too far down that road.

    MOO
     
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    I'm not sold on premeditation especially of the little girls.
     
  19. MemPat

    MemPat The EARTH without ART is just EH.

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    Welcome, SBTrinity!
     
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    Then he has a superhuman ability to bounce back...within the hour yucking it up with a “lol” text to his coworker! Unenrolling them from school within 2 hours to save some bucks and contacting the realtor to get that house up for sale that week! Coworkers noticed nothing amiss with his demeanor that morning! And the list goes on...
     
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