GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #70

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  1. ReckoningDay

    ReckoningDay Well-Known Member

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    Is it bad that I just laughed? I wish we were neighbors MassGuy
     
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    Gardener1850 Well-Known Member

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    Upon further reflection on this I wonder if they noticed those shadows while studying the neighbors video on the same day CW was arrested? I recall that after CW had first confessed that the girls were in the oil tanks there was a point when the detective (or was it Tammy?) came back in and asked CW very seriously if there was any chance he put the girls into the oil tanks while still alive. Now why would the investigators even be thinking that was a possibility unless they saw those shadows and thought it might be the girls walking towards the truck?

    MOO.
     
  3. MsGazette

    MsGazette Just call me Ms G

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    Agreed. Shine like Shan’ann. Take care & so sorry (from the bottom of my heart) for your losses.
     
  4. MemPat

    MemPat The EARTH without ART is just EH.

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    I hope someone can tell me what sort of crime it takes to be incarcerated at one of the SuperMax type prisons where you stay in a cell for 23 hours with no human contact ever, where your food is served through a slot and not in a communal dining hall.

    Maybe those are federal prisons but surely there's something similar for a man who cruelly murders a mother and 3 children in this fashion.

    I really don't want to think CW will be working out in a gym with friends and having in-person visits from family.

    Will I get answers when I listen to the interviews?
     
  5. NanZDrew

    NanZDrew Well-Known Member

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    I think he created the leak in the first place. He took a picture of the leak as though for proof that something really was wrong there.
     
  6. ReckoningDay

    ReckoningDay Well-Known Member

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    I think you may be on to something ! The snake bite analogy resonates with me.
     
  7. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    ADX Florence in Colorado, is exactly the type of prison you are referring to.

    It makes Alcatraz look like a country club.

    Unfortunately, that’s a federal prison, and is reserved for terrorists, mobsters, cartel leaders, and inmates who are huge escape risks.

    As CW is not a federal inmate, he’s not going to be facing those types of restrictions.

    It sure as hell sounded like he has quite a bit of freedom.

    That doesn’t make any of us happy.
     
  8. MCDRAW

    MCDRAW Well-Known Member

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    It’s really hard to hear how chummy the detectives are with him. Almost like they admire him.
     
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    I agree with you. I think he is an empty vessel and he mimics those around him like a chameleon changes to match his environment. He mimics SW. On videos, he is the chorus.
     
  10. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    That was the point.

    They probably had to take a shower the second they left that prison.

    That must have been incredibly hard, but it was the strategy they developed beforehand.

    They executed it well.
     
  11. NanZDrew

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    Agree! He is a reflection of who he is around. He is the best supporting actor in the movie of his life. He just gets his clues now from someone else on how to pretend to be human.
     
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    Could not agree more! I don't feel like there is anything else to be gained by LE or anyone talking to him. He wants attention no matter what form it comes in and he deserves none.
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    I've explained in previous posts why they went back as have others.

    GUILTY - CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #69

    But they don't learn from books written by psychologists. They learn from personal experience.

    And they have questions. I think they sincerely wanted to know if the chemicals in the patch affected him or if he is claiming as much. They want to know if he hated his wife and their marriage.

    He's just not your standard psychopath. He's confounding. And they're adding to their profiling database.

    I think people need to try to separate emotion from logic a little bit. I'm thankful that these experts can be professionals and not fueled by passion and emotion.
     
  14. LovesChocolate

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    BBM - oooooh good catch. I recall CWs response to that, something to the effect of "no, no, oh God no!" (paraphrasing).
     
  15. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    The Rzucek's, the CBI, the FBI, and the DA, strongly disagree.

    So do I.

    The truth matters, even if it comes from the mouth of a pathological liar.

    The benefits outweighed any negatives here.
     
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  16. NanZDrew

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    Initially I didn't believe he took them from home alive until the statement about he would have told him the truth if they said they saw the girls in the truck. That just sounded like a risky and stupid thing to do. But, as is often the case, I just can't think like CW. He just doesn't have human thoughts and does odd things. Why did he take the girls out there to kill them?
     
  17. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    He had no idea they were coming. He had no idea he was being recorded. He had no idea that what he said, would be released to the media.

    What he did say, finally gave law enforcement, and most importantly the Rzucek’s, some answers.

    There were people at the beginning of this case, who were literally accusing Shanann of killing her kids.

    There were people who still believed that.

    Ignorant, hateful, and vile trolls whose lack of intelligence and common sense, was weaponized against the Rzucek family.

    Chris Watts finally used his words, to say “I killed them all.”

    No, he didn’t tell the whole truth, but what he did do, was provide a measure of closure.

    Law enforcement wanted this, and the Rzucek’s needed it.

    Hopefully its provided them with some peace.
     
  18. gregjrichards

    gregjrichards Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for replying I fully understand everything you are saying and why Shan’ann’s family want the information released. I didn’t look at the situation from their perspective I’m just concerned about him becoming even more infamous than he already is because these gruesome and despicable details have been revealed.

    My heart goes out to Shan’ann’s family they have suffered so much. It was absolutely heartbreaking seeing the photo of the graves.
     
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  19. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    It's weird. Is it possible that he just appears that dumb because he just doesn't understand how normal people feel and because he doesn't realize the effect his words will have on others?

    I mean someone cited him talking about The Rzuceks crying when the girls were leaving and how that surprised him. He couldn't understand it.
     
  20. Ninja Bunny

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    I like the way you think!

    Any idea if the doorbell cam picked up CW's movements that morning; would that have been the video the family saw? If the doorbell cam got video of the girls running around in the driveway, then being put in the truck after Shanann got loaded, and then CW driving off with the girls, that would have been game, set, match right there.
     
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