GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #70

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  1. Jessthinkin

    Jessthinkin Well-Known Member

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    Agree! This was not a "social" call (as much as CW seemed to enjoy it as if it were...)
     
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  2. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Oh no, sorry about that! I don't see the full episode up yet on his FB or YouTube, but it is on YouTube if you search for it (I can't link it per TOS). :(
    MOO
     
  3. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Exactly. But the appearance of a “social call,” served them well.

    No cameras, no audio equipment, just a few old friends having a friendly chat.

    Of course this was recorded.

    A great deal of psychology was employed here.
     
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  4. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    He is getting therapy/counseling but refused meds.
    MOO
     
  5. La Louve

    La Louve For Whitney and Teghan

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    Thanks anyway, PM. I appreciate you trying.

    I did search youtube but can't find it.

    I rarely watch DP as he annoys me so much, but I actually took a late lunch last week so I could go home and watch part 1. Shoulda done the same thing today, I guess.
     
  6. molly1255

    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    Yep!
     
  7. Jessthinkin

    Jessthinkin Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. I listened to every bit of it :( and I must admit that as repellent as he is, I'm pretty fascinated with him as a "specimen", for lack of a better word. He did strike me as pretty lonely and desperate for their comaraderie, simulated acceptance, and feigned friendship.
     
  8. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    And, he was receptive. When Coder asked him if he would speak to them, CW said, "definitely."
    MOO
     
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  9. Best of What's Around

    Best of What's Around Well-Known Member

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    And started off with the disarmingly easy questions asking about affairs they suspect he didn't actually have...MOO
     
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  10. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Yup.

    General stuff about prison life.

    A comfortable set of questions that they knew he wouldn’t be bothered by (affairs he didn’t have).

    Then a slow progression into more difficult topics.
     
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    pinkie60 Well-Known Member

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    But they didn't tell him he was being taped and would be shown to the media
     
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  12. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Yup, and they couldn’t, not if they wanted to get the most out of him.

    That would have potentially crippled their chance at success.

    Way too big a risk.

    They violated no laws, and finally gave Shanann’s family a measure of closure.
     
  13. Tigerlily75

    Tigerlily75 Well-Known Member

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    Did you listen to the interview? They had a whole conversation about them just turning up unannounced. If they were lying about surprising him, CW would have to be in on that lie and play along. And there’s obviously no way on earth that happened.

    He has 23 hours a day in his cell to think. He would have been preparing answers had he known they were coming. They couldn’t risk that.

    Sure they did take a risk he wouldn’t talk to them, but it was a calculated risk and one that paid off. They already had intel from the Rzucek’s lawyer that he was being very open and forthcoming during their phone conversations (in relation to the wrongful death suit).

    It’s the closest to the truth as we’ll ever get, and it was candid, rather than rehearsed.
     
  14. Best of What's Around

    Best of What's Around Well-Known Member

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    Correct. And as I understand it, it was not their decision to release it as unredacted as it was - it is the law governing the release of this information to the public in CO. It's not like they are trying to make it into a circus.
     
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  15. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    That’s right! Good ole Colorado open records laws.
     
  16. molly1255

    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. And in terms of turning something into a circus, CW was PT Barnum himself in his porch interviews and he knew those were going to be televised and all over the Internet.
     
  17. Charlot123

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    Well, he is in his cell 23 hours out of the day, he is probably withering without human company. Of course he was desperate for any contact. He used to live with an extroverted, gregarious woman, and a house with kids. Silence and solitude are hard to bear. And when the unexpected guests left, didn’t he fall asleep? These 4 hours must have felt like very intense communication to him.
     
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    He's probably been rehearsing already for his parents coming to visit. He has probably been trying to find ways to sugarcoat what he did. So I'd suspect that's why he came out with a mixture of truth and lies.

    The whole story about arguing with SW before he killed her, I bet that's what he planned to tell his parents. He knew they'd want to know "the trigger", why he killed her. He didn't expect they would ask about a host of other things. They are ready and willing to believe what they want to hear at any rate.

    The difference between rehearsing for his parents and for investigators is a matter of what questions to ask, how to ask them, and when. I imagine investigators are trained in things like physical cues and body language, how to read it and how to affect their own. They also know the facts of the case and how to trip him up, something his parents wouldn't know how to do.

    Just a theory. A likely one IMO
     
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  19. NanZDrew

    NanZDrew Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. And you know CeCe would have probably even realized something was wrong when he was dragging SW down the steps with her feet bumping on each step. Then to cover her feet and head with a bag in the truck. It would have been far less cruel to kill them at home. Instead, he extended their fear and horror for over an hour taking him to that site. Bella loved CeCe and was so protective of her. I can't imagine how she felt seeing her little feet kicking as she was drawing her final breaths, and seeing him take her limp body from the truck. He is the most evil of persons.
     
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    NanZDrew Well-Known Member

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    This is so true. CeCe reminded him of SW, but Bella was quiet and sensitive like him. I guess killing Bella was a bit like killing himself.
     
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