GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #71

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  1. nwmouse

    nwmouse Well-Known Member

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    Ugh, I didn't read about that.

    None-the-less, I think he's lying about having intercourse that night. SW was likely exhausted, feeling deeply hurt and confused by his behavior and had a doctor's r/x the next day. If it were me, the very last thing I'd want is sex.

    He's such a liar who knows.:mad::mad::mad:

    moo
     
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  2. molly1255

    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    You might be right. In the prison interview, I thought he really zinged NK, so he may have hoped what he said got back to her. He said NK knew he was married and wanted to have sex all the time.
     
  3. Noreen McGurl

    Noreen McGurl Cluelessone

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    I just have to say after hearing his interview that I'm sitting here trying to think of a worse case scenario for being murdered and I'm at a loss for words because when I think about it nothing could be as bad as your father, at any age, suffocating you to death but especially when you're a four-year-old and in your eyes your dad, your biggest Hero
    /protector ..
    there is nothing worse in my book including all terrorists rapists serial killers, anything I can think of -there is nothing worse?? I just I was trying to think of something and it made me really sad that I couldn't think of anything worse than to be a four year old being murdered by one of your parents who are supposed to protect and shield you from evil but then to snuff the life out of you?!?!?
    So sad for Bella Cece Shanann and their unborn child Nico :(
     
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    pocketaccent Well-Known Member

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    Wholeheartedly agree. He is denying premeditation. During the prison interview, he kept saying he didn't know what he was doing, kept using the words such as 'anger', 'rage', 'snapped', and even 'PTSD'.

    Dude forgot he already pled guilty to premeditated murders.
     
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  5. pocketaccent

    pocketaccent Well-Known Member

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    ..which he brought to NK's house. Gross!
     
  6. nwmouse

    nwmouse Well-Known Member

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    CW's a genius only in his own mind. I think he got his IQ results from a fortune cookie...

    The news that he was back on suicide watch appears to be a recycled piece by Radar Online, which was then recycled by the DM. Its very similar to the first suicide watch story whilst Watts was in the CO jail, and the latest sources are dubious. The DM reporters are not known for fact checking and they are sometimes incorrect, like the headline story about Patrick Frazee's mother being the one who said "the witch was dead" on facebook, (I'm paraphrasing), and it was the wrong Frazee but the DM have not retracted their story at this time.

    It might be correct that CW's back on a second suicide watch after his interview with the agents, but it needs to be corroborated.

    CW's in the Dodge Correctional Facility in Waupun WI, which houses some notorious killers like Steven Avery and Chris Coleman, so CW might be in solitary for a while as he's so high profile.

    Maybe he was afraid for his own skin, but in no way do I believe that CW wanted to kill himself because of his horrific deeds after listening to that recent interview. He was very flippant during his recent interview with the agents, and appears to have completely forgiven himself, even going so far as to lie that Shanann laid back meekly and prayed for him as he strangled her.

    He's delusional, a liar and a narcissist. His new role, in his mind, is Chris The Preacher. He has fan mail!

    I think he's in for a rude awakening. No more tasty pizza treats in the DOC!
    If I were him, I'd be hesitant to eat any pizza served to me after the prison cook has given CW's slice some extra special toppings...:eek:

    moo

    moo
     
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  7. opalonyx

    opalonyx Well-Known Member

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    Yep and he talked about her being bipolar (not sure if he was using the term colloquially or if she was actually diagnosed) and getting pissed at him for going home to his family or when she overheard his daughters in the background. Oh and saying all her online dates kept standing her up! He also essentially said he wouldn't have killed his family if he didn't get involved with her. Either he came up with the idea to paint her in a bad light on his own or whoever he talks to on the phone is giving him ideas. Or both. A far cry from his initial interview when he tried to protect her because she had been through enough.
     
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  8. pinkie60

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    I think in NKs first interview with LE she said she called Chris and told him to delete everything. Iirc
     
  9. molly1255

    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    Gross is right! JMO, CW is a narcissist and a psychopath and they absolutely love to cheat. Just because a credible previous sex partner hasn't surfaced doesn't mean that none exist.

    He may have had a big supply because he needed a big supply. In using them with Shanann, it would have been double insurance that he wouldn't pass something onto Shanann and get busted. JMO.
     
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    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    Manson family member Charles "Tex" Watson did become a preacher after his conviction for the Tate-LaBianca murders. He had some people convinced he really changed.

    For Watson, and for CW with his bible reading and reciting of scripture, it's just a new mask, JMO.
     
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    I think that, sadly, had CW cheated a lot before NK, he would merely continue cheating.

    It seems to me than only a man with little sexual experience would consider "the other" woman his Ultima Thule, the end of the universe.

    Had he cheated before, he'd know that there always could be a newer partner, view the whole affair like "a fling", not like "love", and know that NK was not the one to die for.
     
  12. molly1255

    molly1255 Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. In her email to CW, NK stated she was looking to build a life with someone. If CW had previous sex partners, they could have been married, or in another relationship, or just had an agreement that it was only sex. He may never have been involved with a single woman before.

    In addition, CW had never been left on his own for any period of time before this. He had five weeks where he didn't have to go home at night, and he had weekends to spend with her.

    JMO
     
  13. pinkie60

    pinkie60 Well-Known Member

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    Just thought. He might have been planning much earlier to kill them. When he told SW he wanted another baby. I don't think he expected her to conceive so fast. She took fertility drugs with both Bella and Cece.
    He probably thought he could get it done before she got pregnant SW got pregnant in 2weeks time without any fertility drugs
     
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    pinkie60 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if he could have chloroformed all of them before strangling
     
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  15. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    That’s a relatively rare method on the whole.

    Besides that, there is no evidence of it.

    All indications are that he strangled SW in their bed, and smothered the girls at the oil tank site.
     
  16. mtnlites

    mtnlites Scooby Doo Gang Membership Pending

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    I agree. If he'd chloroformed them then I think LE would've found evidence of internet searches, receipts, or something. I also think it's something that he would've admitted to because, in some ways, it's not quite as heinous as staring your daughter straight in the eye and killing her while she's awake. Still heinous, but I think we were ALL hoping that he killed them in their sleep and they didn't know what happened. Unfortunately, I think he really is as terrible as he shows. I don't think he needed anything to break up the horror of what he did.
     
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    My thoughts are the rage CW says he had when SW came home was due to the fact that she was back home.

    He had enjoyed his freedom for the time she was gone. Her return turned into a stronger rage each day as he had to return to his old style of living, playing husband and daddy. On top of this, NK ws nagging, protesting he didn’t spend anytime with him. So, he probably began to look at SW with hate. JMO.
     
  18. mtnlites

    mtnlites Scooby Doo Gang Membership Pending

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    That's true. And his rage could have just silently built. It didn't have to be based on anything real or specific. If he'd decided that SW was the one standing in the way of his great, edge-standing mistress then he could've let so much hate build up in him that any little reminder just made it worse.

    I'm still undecided on whether he actually felt enraged or not. I do think the crime was premeditated in that I don't think he suddenly saw red and began strangling her, but I think rage and premeditation don't have to be mutually exclusive in this case.
     
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    I've only just started to learn about this whole case a couple of days ago. At the time, I was too engrossed in the Mollie Tibbetts disappearance to focus on this case. Poor Bella, she watched her dad strangle her mother and drag her body down the stairs, and also watched her sister being smothered. She must have been terrified beyond belief. My heart is broken.
     
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  20. NanZDrew

    NanZDrew Well-Known Member

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    Agree. It is his way of absolving himself in Shannan's eyes and God's eyes...he thinks at least. It goes back to I wanted to stop but I couldn't. It seems to me that he might even be suggested a demon came into him and made him do it against his will.
     

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