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GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #72

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  1. NuttMegg

    NuttMegg Well-Known Member

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    Just from listening around to various sites, I don't see much new or any big revelations aside from what has been leaked for the last couple of weeks. Sounds like he told the author a lot of inconsistencies, and here he is claiming to be forgiven and saved.
     
  2. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    One also cannot murder someone twice. His story does not add up. The girls did not have bruises on their bodies like he described. He claims, "that's why the cause of death was smothering." (because he smothered them first with a pillow) the autopsy indicates they were smothered anyway. It does not show that they were smothered twice. Imo
     
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  3. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    It seems like each time he tells a different version of the story the details get worse and worse.
    He went from denying he killed the girls and blaming it on Shannon to making himself sound like an even bigger monster with every new description.
    As if it wasn't bad enough that the girls rode, terrified, with their feet resting on their mothers body, to the site of their murder, Bella saying, no, Daddy, don't do to me what you did to Cece.

    Now his story is that he murdered them twice, and Shannon looked at him, her eyes bleeding, while he strangled her.

    I'm not sure what else he can say to make it any worse.

    All he is doing is digging the knife deeper and torturing the family even more.

    If there is anything he should be saying, it does not include sharing details of the murder.

    It should be expressing his shame, sorrow and regret for what he has done, and how sorry he is for all the pain he has caused.

    Imo
     
  4. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    Maybe he is angling for a movie about him. Maybe he thinks the worse he is the more someone will want to do his story
     
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    Poedelini Well-Known Member

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    My point still is somebody who thinks she is in good presence with good trust won't ever suspect she being drugged.
    The fact in the texts is that she could be drugged that night by Chris.
    And before he stated all that in the book there was some evidence in the discovery him searching for Oxycodone 80 mg.

    Offcourse there is a change where he is seeking attention and he did not do it. But there is a plausible cause here. I think more than dehydration that night.
    And Chris was oh so nice suddenly that night giving her a back rub and stuff.
     
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  6. Nikynoo

    Nikynoo Verified Attorney - United Kingdom

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    @PommyMommy , I watched an interview with the author (with the criminal defence attorney). She seemed anti CW (and the Watts family) and pretty pro SW. I get the impression that she has relied heavily on the letters and not researched to back them up. I suspect the letter that has been touted to promote the book is not actually included in the book as there are several claims contained in it that are not true and she acknowledged that. I would be interested to see more letters - but my take is that he is goading someone (anyone) to end his life. This is all IMO.
     
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  7. Nikynoo

    Nikynoo Verified Attorney - United Kingdom

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    I think he wants someone to kill him - he is inciting (evenmore) hatred against himself for a reason.
     
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  8. NoClouseau

    NoClouseau Well-Known Member

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    I think that's the last thing he wants. He's only comfortable murdering babies / small children and a pregnant exhausted woman. He would soil himself if faced with a male aggressor. IMO
     
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  9. Colorado303

    Colorado303 Verified Insider Watts Case

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    Perfectly said! I couldn’t agree with you more.

    The fact for almost all of us is if we looked hard enough at our own relationships we would see the “warning signs” some say SW could and/or should have seen. Frankly lots of us would probably see more “signs” than CW exhibited to his wife. Yet most of us are thankfully in normal, basically healthy relationships. And the vast majority of the ones who aren’t will simply get a divorce.

    I think it’s easy for everyone who didn’t know SW and CW to believe there had to be something different, something worse, something telling about how he behaved. Or what he said. Something if you looked close enough into their lives or into his eyes you could see. But those of us who knew them are painfully aware that there wasn’t ANYTHING that indicated he was this sick. This evil. This different than other people we know or the loved ones in our own lives.

    I know for a bit many of us wondered if we should be creeped out or frightened by things happening in our own homes. A spouse wants to get life insurance policies. A sibling starts watching true crime tv. A teenager gets moody and silent. We’d mostly joke about it, but deep inside we wondered. We got over it though, realizing if you look hard enough anyone might seem like a threat. Yet almost no-one actually is.

    It’s comforting to think that CW was hollow, empty and dangerous from the get go. And maybe he was. Maybe he was just a tremendous actor. But IMO he found genuine joy in his girls and loved them and his wife as much as some people can love, and more than some others. Until he didn’t.

    We can read 100 books about him and still may not know why he instead of one of the 1000’s of other unfaithful, unhappy spouses, was the one who callously harmed his family in such an unthinkable heinous way.

    What I’d really like to know is if there was ever a time when he honestly believed he could never hurt his wife and babies. Like a “normal” person. Or if he aways knew he had this in him. If I had to bet, I’d say he would have found it unthinkable. Until it wasn’t.
     
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  10. Colorado303

    Colorado303 Verified Insider Watts Case

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    Or he was complaining of back pain and said he didn’t have time to go to the doctor ....
     
  11. PommyMommy

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    That's already happening.

    AUG 22, 2019
    'The Chris Watts Story': Lifetime Channel Plans Movie About Murders Of Shanann, Bella And Celeste Watts
    “Lifetime has greenlit the new movie, The Chris Watts Story [working title], revealing the months that led up to the horrific crime and piecing together the mysterious motives that made this doting father turn into a cold-blooded killer,” the network website states.
     
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    Frankly this is more information than I need to know: i wish people would stop publicizing every word that comes out of his filthy murderous sociopathic mouth.
    I am overdosing on this monster -----
     
  13. Nikynoo

    Nikynoo Verified Attorney - United Kingdom

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    If that was the case, then surely he wouldn't give any indication of what he supposedly did. My point is, some of his claims are plainly untrue and he knows it. You wouldn't embellish something that was already bad, by making it worse. Does not make sense to me. IMO.
     
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    2 out of my 3 prescriptions right now are in white bottles.
     
  15. ray9898

    ray9898 Well-Known Member

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    Yup....no way around it. The euphoric intoxicating effects of an opiate cannot go unnoticed.
     
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    Maybe he feels completely safe with the security around him. I wouldn't try to make sense of anything he says.
     
  17. NuttMegg

    NuttMegg Well-Known Member

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    8:08 (Scott Reisch) I mean parents have a job in life and that is to protect their children, I don’t care whether it’s us humans or anywhere in nature, but what do the parents or the mother always does is they protect their children throughout life and for a parent to actually do that, I think it makes just people, it shocks the conscience is what it really does…..

    8:31 (Cadle) Right, it was interesting to me one time he made the comment to me that he had read and learned that parents just don’t kill children, their children, and of course we know it happens, but it was interesting that he had to look that up, he had to read about that without knowing his instinct should have been there to not to kill his children

    …………..

    9:49 (Cadle) he may be book smart, I don’t doubt that because I will tell you he has extreme recall of things that he reads, I have never heard anyone quote the bible like the guy does, he can quote scripture after scripture it…..amazing, anything that he reads..

    10:18 (Cadle) but he doesn’t have common sense and what really struck me about his social skills is I think he was so controlled his whole life and I’m not talking Shannan, I’m talking before that his thoughts were controlled or at least were tried, they tried to control his thoughts to the point that he has leaned upon someone all of his life to tell him what to do, what to do next, and what decision to make, so if that’s common sense I don’t know.

    1053: (Scott R) Well he’s definitely gonna get that in prison……continued
     
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  18. NuttMegg

    NuttMegg Well-Known Member

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    Some people think the opposite, that he is trying very hard to stay in protective custody for a long time instead of being exposed in general population. I did hear a joke about his thinking about working in the kitchen...that may be the worst of work stations for him - better the library.
     
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  19. MsBetsy

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    Yes, I don't doubt that he researched it and considered it.
    He was nice to her before the murder because he needed her to believe things were ok and she would be unsuspecting so his plans would go smoothly.

    If he had drugged her anytime before that he would risk her finding out, as well as her family. She may have taken the girls and left him and he would lose his opportunity.
    Imo
     
  20. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, you can't just feel that way from being happy or pregnant. She would have known something was not right. That would be the first thing she would notice long before an upset stomach and vomiting or passing out.
    She would likely drift off to sleep thinking, 'I've never felt so good in my entire life...'

    Imo
     
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