Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by Mysti88c, May 12, 2020.
Airplane mode use;
1. When flying
2. When you don’t want your phone to reveal your location
In January 2021 LS talked about GD.
He was also a volunteer firefighter, he heard the radio call about the bike being found. He told her he was the 3rd person on scene to see the bike.
Could "Still talk about Arizona" be in reference to something that she and Barry had been discussing?
Didn't CM from TIR report that LE chose to arrest BM because they were concerned that he was moving to AZ imminently?
Many thanks to @OldCop and @oviedo for the phone timeline!
I am curious about this call:
2:53 am SM Outgoing call on SM’s phone
Scenario: Barry possibly had both his own and Suzanne’s phone with him when he was out in the early dark hours of Sunday morning. If Barry’s phone was still in airplane mode, it wouldn’t use cell service. But… if he attempted to make a WiFi call (or even a butt-dial) and he was near a tower, might it have connected via Hotspot to Suzanne’s phone, thus registering as a call from her phone service?
I think you’re likely right about Suzanne and Barry discussing a move there, and you’re definitely right about the DA being concerned that he had plans to pack up and move there imminently.
He had apparently been talking about it, and either law enforcement’s or the DA’s office got wind of it.
Earlier in the week they were seen together taking a walk by a woman who worked as cleaning staff for the Airbnb’s in the neighborhood.
Airplane mode suspends WiFi communication as well as Bluetooth.
I just tried it. Disabled cell on my phone. Turned on airplane mode. Turned on WiFi calling. Had to enter my emergency address for 911 purpose. Enabled WiFi calling while roaming. It gave me a screen that asked if I wanted to enable use of Wifi Calling For Other Devices. My nearby device is a WiFi only iPad. Placed a call to work. It went through.
I hadn't thought of her response being a way of trying to figure out what was going on with him! This could be a possibility. I agree that she did not trust him...
However...she was still going for walks with him and went out with him on Friday night for pizza at the same time she was texting him about getting divorced. This is what puzzles me and I wonder...
Was she trying to keep things normal and placate him?
I interpreted “Still talk about AZ” was BM potentially trying to convince her to move to AZ.
Sorry, real life event!
I’m just learning about WiFi calling functions on my own iPad/phone setup. I wanted to be able to use my iPad to call when my phone isn’t handy or vice versa.
Corrected to say,
When the phone is in airplane mode and WiFi calling is enabled by the user the WiFi call will go through as long as there is a strong enough WiFi signal. Other features of airplane mode are not impacted.
Add to that: Prosecution needs the best people specializing in digital footprints. Apple/Google technicians or someone that can debunk the shared Apple ID/device confusion. It might be that they have a shared Apple computer in the house signed onto one Apple ID account. But if they also use a Google browser, there might be separate Google Accounts (People) signed into and out of the browser at different times. Therefore, web history can be isolated.
Same for debunking BM’s cellphone speed variances around the house during the chipmunk chasing fiasco.
Defense is well-prepared. The prosecution now knows what to expect and needs to be two steps ahead.
Someone quoted the DA saying something like: sometimes all the Justice a victim gets is taking the case to trial. I say screw that, you need to give each and all your cases your all.
AM is right, that is a lot annual and monthly expenses.
Thank you Jane for posting video & info re pic of SMs bike. Going to watch now! Moo
Thanks for the info,I didn’t know that .
I think the word “hike” implies something more rugged and secluded than a neighborhood walk. I don’t think that she would go alone with him into the woods, where there would be no witnesses and no one to hear if she screamed for help. MOO
Agree. The FBI had a retiring expert CAST agent.
Prosecution needs both the well known expert on Cast and a tech with Cellubrite expertise and that has a gift for simplifying the information.
Eveyone with FMIP knows what happens when someone runs around around or even drives around in a gas station, irregular patterns.
No one thinks the program is defective or anyone is actually running 35 mph through walls.
Grusing alluded to it with strafing.
Just an FYI for anybody unfamiliar-- Tailwinds, referenced in BM's communication and presented as evidence during the PH is a 27+ acre development on the east side of Poncha Springs Lane -- south of U.S. 50. The plan for residential and commercial development was approved in 2018. This is also the same development where BM was working/living (in a townhome) when he was arrested in May 2021.
Joe DeLuca gave an update on the Tailwind project, a 27.5 acre parcel also known as the Bagwell Property located on the east side of Poncha Springs Lane, north of Little River Ranch and south of U.S. 50. The plan calls for it to be divided into 68 lots with a mix of residential and commercial development, before the project comes efore the trustees for final approval to proceed. DeLuca reviewed the phases of the project, with Phase 1 consisting of a row of townhouses fronting Poncha Springs Lane, and Phase 2 consisting of sales of lots intended for single-family housing, including the infrastructure for the sewer and gutters. The biggest change was the site plan for Lot #3; a commercially-zoned lot originally slated to be part of Phase 3. DeLuca asked that development of lot #3 and #4 be moved to Phase 2, as he had a potential client already interested in building a fitness center on Lot #3.
Poncha Springs approves Tailwind Major Subdivision final plat - by Jan Wondra - Ark Valley Voice
OK, but my phone still showed as being in Airplane mode when I placed the successful call. Assuming Barry would have been in Airplane mode, he too may not have known that without disabling WiFi calling, he could have calls go through and be tracked.