CO CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #13

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  1. Itsapuzzle

    Itsapuzzle Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps someone was hired to get Suzanne out of the picture while BM was away ..... just a thought ... in exchange for money?

    <modsnip: Surveillance cams not working is social media rumor>
     
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  2. Barry

    Barry Registered Fence Sitter

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    I am wondering what happens to POA, if it’s not known if the individual is deceased or not. In that context, maybe the POA was not valid, prompting the court action. MOO - IANAL
     
  3. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    Most parents take care of their kids, whether or not their own parents took care of them. But we have no reason to believe that anyone in this story lacked parental care.

    Suzanne seems, from all her SM, to be a great mother who adored her daughters, so of course she would "take care" of them. I wouldn't post anything about Suzanne's family members - I believe that sleuthing any of them is against TOS, although not sure if this extends to deceased people - you can always message a mod and they will get back to you.

    I am not sure what your second paragraph means. Are you speaking about BM being taken care of by SM's parents? Pretty sure that would be off limits and you were right to state it as an hypothesis.

    Right now, Suzanne isn't able to take care of anyone.

    Suzanne has been missing for 28 days, by end of day today and tomorrow marks the 29th day of the search for Suzanne.

    I personally am very concerned that there has been no further wilderness/locale searching for about 22 days. If Suzanne had a head injury and wandered off, it might take a lot of searching to find her.
     
  4. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    It truly does clarify - thank you.
     
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  5. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    As WS is a facts-based forum, posting statements as fact requires a link to the verified source and/or approved MSM both to post and discuss on the main thread. Sleuthing family members also violates WS TOS. In other words, I don't think you learned this info on the main thread or MSM. There are about 59 minutes allowed to edit your posts here or you can self report your post and request a Moderator delete or modify your post to comply with TOS.
     
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  6. TKG

    TKG Well-Known Member

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    I was just perusing NAMUS and looking at SM’s entry. The map included as last seen location looks like a restaurant? Anyone know anything about this info?

    خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏
    Edited to add: I just did a street 360 view and I’m not sure what I’m looking at. Fire station? Garage of some sort? @Dave F. Any ideas on this map that is listed on SM’s NAMUS page? GM has the GPS coordinates at La Beca Cafe Take Out.. o_O
     
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  7. CronesEye

    CronesEye Well-Known Member

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    It is strange how crime, abduction, murder and violence evolves over time. It seems to have it's own subculture. In this it isn't always the act of an individual but an individual in a community. Both the individual's and the community's pathos evolves and changes. In learning about stalking I saw how notoriety was sometimes pursued and achieved by those stalking famous people like Jodi Foster, that being John Hinckely Jr. and now we have a whole new kind of notoriety stalker, with modern media, a new generation etc. It's quite a study.
    Regardless, I am sure it would help to understand Colorado's unique culture. I am sure Chaffee does. I have been there but don't really know the dynamics. Regardless of who dunn it, they dunn it in Colorado and if they are going get away with it, they need to successfully maneuver in and around Colorado culture and Colorado LE.
     
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    kkdj Well-Known Member

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    I think so too.
    If she did there will be a notary public with record of it, her signature and fingerprint.
     
  9. BeckyF

    BeckyF Well-Known Member

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    If in fact BM wanted his wife dead and it was not a crime of passion, but planned, he seems to me to be the kind of person who would hire someone to do the dirty work. I have nothing to base this on, just an impression. JMO.
     
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  10. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    Isn't that the whole point of a POA? That no matter what happens to you, someone has the right to complete transactions on your behalf?

    If I took off for the highlands of Chiapas, where there were no phones and my family had no clue when they'd hear from me again, I would indeed execute a POA. So many things that could need attending to. I might not think of myself as missing (I'd be out in some village with no phones). But my family might. And my DH might need my signature on various things. I'd want him to be able to take care of things legally.

    We need more attorneys here!
     
  11. K9Enzo

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    I wonder if SM ever packed a lunch to enjoy while on a bike ride? Did she ever stop to cool off, stop for a long drink, take a break, eat? Would that lake been a location she was drawn to? Is there a trail she would have traveled alone to get off her bike to pee out of sight?

    But as soon as I start thinking about these possibilities of a unknown person happening upon her or her having some sort of accident- that worksite dig & house search is front and center again. Then I’m back to was she was murdered by someone she should have trusted the most with her life or murdered by someone else she knows, maybe well or not so much.
     
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  12. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Hope this helps to clarify: based on my experience, no sleuthing family includes the deceased family. For example, we could not post or discuss on the main thread that SM's mother was deceased until after it was reported in MSM --albeit many read the obituary weeks earlier.
     
  13. AugustWest

    AugustWest Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate the warm welcome and thank you for the reply!

    As previously stated, I understand the concern; that a spouse could "game the system" by catching the benefit of his/her preferred forum, even while causing the misfortune of his/her significant other. I totally get it. I simply wanted people to understand the rationale of why the law is the way it is. Uniform laws are a good thing. It takes away a tool that many unsavory attorneys use to abuse the law to their ends. Also, as previously noted, we all should understand that law is imperfect. It would be hard to tailor a suitable wall of words to cover the fact pattern discussed here. And this is an extreme example. Uniform guardianship laws benefit a far greater swath of people than they fail. That was my main concern when crafting my earlier response; we have come a long way in guardianship issues, and I want the general public to understand this.

    This is a tough example. I don't have the answer as to what forum would be best suited to address Ms. Morphew's guardianship. I do believe, however, that Indiana is as proper a venue as Colorado. It is much more convenient, in my opinion, to be heard there. She was raised and lived there for most of her life. Her family is there, so notice is better achieved there. How convenient would it be for a possible dissenter to travel to Colorado to voice their opinion on the guardianship and her wishes? When you think of these things, and also remember that the court doesn't view Mr. Morphew any differently than another law abiding citizen, it makes sense. Her husband wants it there, and her closest adult blood relative doesn't object (even though she is a young whippersnapper :)). I really don't know what more the judge could do in this instance. Not an easy decision by any means.

    I have read over the Guardianship (Missing Persons) Act of 2017. It is always cool to read UK law, with reference to the Queen in the legalise ("Be it enacted by the Queen's most Excellent Majesty"). American law is so dull, comparatively speaking. And I think it a well reasoned approach to distinguish missing persons versus, say, medically incapable persons. However, I still feel that U.S. law has done a good job on the matter also, and is consistent with the notion of common law shared by the British, its Commonwealth, and us, the rebellious colonies!

    I will consider becoming verified, however, I like lurking. You guys think up some pretty good stuff, and I like to see your thoughts unbridled by us stuffy lawyers. I have been lurking since the Casey Anthony trial...long time ago (what a sorry conclusion that was). I simply wanted to say my piece regarding the UAGPPJA, as I know it pretty well. I live in Texoma, the area between Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas, so these "forum shopping" issues commonly arise. I generally practice medical malpractice defense, with a side in estate planning. That's my background, and in the chance I don't become verified, you can take that as truth or leave it :p

    Great discussion all, keep it up!
     
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    pocketaccent Well-Known Member

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    Did we ever find out how BM knew (per TD video) that the bike was found with its wheels pointing up? Maybe LE showed him photos?
    Did he know because he placed it that way?

    I missed it if this was discussed. I'm a page skipper when catching up.
     
  15. Barry

    Barry Registered Fence Sitter

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    I believe POA goes away at TOD. I’m not sure what happens if it is uncertain if the person is deceased.
     
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    Itsapuzzle Well-Known Member

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    That is interesting, thanks for putting it up TKG, hadn't heard that before .... h'mm, the biker would be able to say around what time he saw the suspicious car there.
     
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    Exactly!! This is huge. That is why I am very keen on knowing how the Judge is going to look at the Guardianship as it points towards a financial gain motive in her disappearance.
     
  19. AugustWest

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    Sorry it took so long to reply, I just wrote an essay for Seattle1!

    I am a little confused about your question, but I think you are referring to a legal standard some courts use to determine a respondent's decision-making. There are two schools of thought in U.S. jurisprudence. One is the doctrine of substituted consent, the other best-interest.

    Substituted consent would make a decision consistent with an individual's wishes. Or what we usually think of as autonomous "intent." What the respondent intended to mean when they conveyed their wishes.

    A best-interest standard would require that the guardian look at the pros and cons of the procedure or situation and determine what is in the individual’s best interest.

    Hope this is what you were asking, and thanks for the reply!

    ETA: I'm not sure which standard Indiana uses. And it's the weekend, so I'm gonna be lazy and not look it up! :p
     
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  20. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I’ll add a couple things that add to the suspicion:

    BM has never spoken to the media, or been publicly involved in the search effort. In fact, when given the opportunity to utilize the media to get the word out, he responded with words to the effect of “it’s too soon.”

    In a suspicious disappearance, families across the country frequently express frustration when they aren’t afforded such an opportunity.

    BM had it, and passed.

    He then waited a week, and devoted an astounding 26 seconds in the form of a recorded video. I have never seen anything like that before.

    I believe that when the sheriff said that Barry had been cooperative and expressed hope that he would continue to be cooperative, he was sending a message.

    The silence that is surrounding this entire thing, is something I have only seen in homicide investigations. That is exactly what I believe this to be.
     
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