Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by Mysti88c, May 12, 2020.
Bombshell? NG?? She reminds me of the Daily Mail.
I say spontaneously combust. He will be that angry.
Meh. That’s just the CCSO having to respond to Nancy Grace jumping the gun and trying to be ahead of the story.
I would hope so.
CMoore News® (Carly Moore)@CMoore_News
The Sheriff's office confirms human remains have NOT been found, but we're told the possible scent of human remains were picked up during a search for #SuzanneMorphew #FindSuzanne
I stopped listening to her years ago.
As per the WS YouTube Live today, @Tricia was texting with someone from the media (who remained anonymous) who confirmed the news and did not get the news from the DM. 15:00 onwards.
ETA for context, it doesn’t sound like DM has jumped the gun this time. JMO.
Folks please make sure that photos or tweets posted are coming from an MSM source.
I would think LE would definitely seek a search warrant first. The two dogs alerting on the property should be enough probable cause. According to the PE guys, it can be done quickly telephonically. A senator also offered to help with that, reportedly. I'm not sure it would really happen in one day, though.
I agree with all of this.
However, if dogs found the scent of human remains on BM’s property, and LE has had 24 hours to get a SW, why hasn’t it been executed? That’s my question I guess.
Would he try running first? He’s probably got a plan and a bug out bag packed and ready. Surely LE has him under surveillance and will be checking all vehicles leaving the house or his condo. I wonder where he is right this minute. Would love to be a fly on the wall...
The best part of the whole thing for me, is I just know that after letting AM and the dogs search the property yesterday, he was probably walking around feeling great his publicity stunt, convinced no one would figure out his master plan.... and today hes probable enraged or scared as hell that his secret land purchase was discovered.
DNA, dental records etc.
Tricia says yesterday they were waiting on warrants, so the searching today was likely legal,
FBI is taking over, currently there and going to dig.
waiting for photos with tents up!
according to her source that is not associated with, or quoting DM
Of course, it was my attempt at mocking NG...she was always doing bombshells with "tot mom" Casey Anthony.
A logistical question here:
Now that BM has relocated to an incorporated area, where is the business based? I’m not sure a residential condo lot could accommodate all the tools of the landscaping trade.
Follow-up question: is this a word-of-mouth service only? Or did the Morphews advertise their company in local or regional papers?
Not on a two acre lot in a housing sub-division!
I'm interested in the plant located close to the lot. Do they sell sand there or just gravel? What road is it on?
It really depends on which property one is discussing.
I. Property owned by Barry
If -- as reported by the Daily Mail ** -- the dogs "hit" on something in/on Barry's property, then that fact (the "hit") may be used in a probable cause affidavit to attempt to obtain a warrant.* The purpose of the exclusionary rule (suppressing evidence) is to "punish" the government for unlawful actions. For example, if an officer who goes into a home without a warrant, conducts a search, and finds cocaine, the cocaine could be excluded from evidence because the government agent (the officer) committed an unlawful act (a search without a warrant). Here, however, it can be argued that the police did nothing wrong: the volunteers did. The "punishment" of exclusion would serve no purpose, since the police's actions were not unlawful.
However, if the defense can connect the police to the volunteers, then the volunteers may be considered agents of the police. This would mean that the government did violate the law: it caused its agents to search Barry's property without a warrant. Because there was no warrant, the search would be presumed to be unlawful.
II. Property not owned by Barry
This search is less of a problem. Barry has no expectation of privacy in a property owned by another person, so it's doubtful that he can attempt to have any evidence obtained there excluded. A person can only challenge a search as unreasonable if he has "standing," which is a reasonable expectation of privacy in the place that is searched.
Note that even if any evidence obtained due to these searches is admitted, the defense can still argue that the evidence was planted, especially if the property was already searched by investigators at a prior time and nothing was found.
* I have no idea if -- in Colorado -- a "hit" from a cadaver dog, in and of itself, would provide probable cause for a warrant. I also do not know whether police would have to include any information about the cadaver dog's training and experience in the affidavit.
** The Daily Mail's track record with regard to accuracy is not spotless, so this exercise may be academic only.
Well Nancy Grace did that for sure but retracted it
We are working to get more clarity. The statement does not specifically deny that cadaver dogs picked up a human scent. But there does seem to be something strange going on with the investigation. #SuzanneMorphew