CO CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #45

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  1. redabby

    redabby Well-Known Member

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    We have absolutely no idea if there was any form of dv in the marriage, nobody would necessarily know but BM and SM and she's not here to tell us.
    On another note I might have missed it but was the Sunday job pre-planned well in advance I got the impression that it was all set up at the last minute.
    I know the wall had been damaged a year before and BM had planned to fix it taking just MG, but had that always been a plan for that particular Sunday.
    If not why the sudden rush and why so early he had already had a year to fix it.
    Why did he suddenly decide he needed more crew was it because he knew SM was missing and he thought his being on a job with just MG might look shady to LE when she was reported missing.
     
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  2. Boxer

    Boxer Well-Known Member

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    Yes. BM generated a lot of drama around tbe job.
     
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    Colorado303 Verified Insider Watts Case

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    I’m a CO real estate broker. In our licensing class it was pounded into us if our Seller asks we not disclose a stigma, we have an obligation to not disclose. We could lose our license if we do.

    If it were me, I would strongly recommend to my Seller that we disclose the stigma. The Buyer is going to find out and I’d rather have them know before we go under contract. If they are going to balk better they do it now. Otherwise you run the risk the buyer will back out after you’ve taken the home off the market. In CO the Buyer has multiple opportunities to cancel the contract and still get their earnest money back. (For example, Buyer can say they are terminating the contract based on an inspection, with no obligation to specify what was found in inspection that’s causing them to terminate).

    In this case, MLS Broker notes indicate the listing agent must be present at all Buyer showings. It’s possible the agent will disclose the stigma at that time. I completely understand why they wouldn’t want to mention it in the public listing information. And they may think even putting it MLS broker notes would increase looky-loo showings.
     
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    OzzieB Well-Known Member

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    Good morning Websluth Family,
    Tomorrow marks 5 months! Suzanne is out there somewhere.... I honestly think we can find her. I hope you all have a good day and I hope we find some new things today.
     
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  5. Dave F.

    Dave F. Just the facts......

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    Fireflize Well-Known Member

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    Yes, drama. Excessive drama is a tool to force others to conceed that a lie is infact truth. It becomes simply too exhausting to refute the lie. A life pattern for some. It works satisfactorily for the small lies. But this is a big one.
    Moo if course.
     
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    Boxer Well-Known Member

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  8. wishBones1962

    wishBones1962 Well-Known Member

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    RBBM. I agree up to the point of the fireplace. She could have been anywhere in the house when he allegedly attacked her. JMOO
     
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  9. Madeleine74

    Madeleine74 Knower of Things

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    BBM

    I just looked and the article you linked to is dated May 20, 2020. There is no photo of BM *at the search*, assuming you are talking about the search organized by A.M. and held at the end of September.

    There are 3 older photos of BM, from May, standing by one of his vehicles, with a blue colored bike behind him on a rack on one vehicle, which has been shown and discussed in depth on WS in prior months because of the blue bike.

    A.M. is on record in more than 1 interview that his B.I.L. never participated in the large search that was held for SM.

    IMO
     
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    I also believe that it's 5 months since she was killed...
    JMO
     
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    I'm glad you brought this up. It was a big beef I had with the NG podcast this week on SM. The info about JP talking to BM on Saturday about the job came from LS interviewing him weeks back. But on the NG podcast, not one of the guests, most of all LS, brought it up.

    IMO, the impression was given that BM got the ball rolling on this project around 4am on Sunday morning. I kept waiting for one of them to mention the JP interview. Maybe it was edited out. I still find that episode disappointing with every guest that spoke and they were still talking about the dumb mountain lion theory. It's overplayed now. Yes, BM talked about it, more than once and it was absurd BUT that is not the only theory he put out there. It's talked about more with certain on-line hosts than BM himself. Even NG was confused by what the guests were reporting on that episode.

    Off my soap box and all my opinion.
     
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    That is my stumbling block, too, @FromGerman. I left it in because this is what JP told us. My thoughts as to possible scenarios:
    - BM bumped into JP in town sometime on Saturday afternoon. He asked JP to work on Sunday to appease SM.
    Problem: MG said she said she didn’t know about the job until 4:00 am on Sunday although she did say her and BM had previously twice cancelled it.
    -SM was already deceased when BM met with JP in Salida on Saturday. He was forming his alibi.
    -JP misremembered. However, he also said BM called him Sunday morning to confirm the job.
    -SM’s death was premeditated.

    Other possibility: I got it all wrong. :)

     
  13. Dave F.

    Dave F. Just the facts......

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    BM could not have been at the house, having turned it over to LE upon his arrival on May 10th. I believe some sources stated that he arrived the search to deliver his truck, trailer and Bobcat; and left with his friend in another pickup truck (after performing that nifty mid-air shoe tie for the cameras, of course). My guess would be that the reason he was there at all was to comply with the search warrant, as you say.
    I certainly agree that he probably left the search as soon as he complied with LE instructions to remove the Bobcat from the trailer, and unhook trailer from the truck (so it could be taken to a Ford dealer for complete download of the GPS data). My question is, then.....did LE tell him to offload the Bobcat not realizing that the machine also had internal GPS, or did LE plan on taking the machine to the dealer by other means than BM's trailer to avoid liability issues?
    Further, is it possible that LE took until the very last day of the allowable search time before returning the house because either the truck or the Bobcat was still at the dealer?
    No answers here, only questions.
    IMO
     
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  14. Dave F.

    Dave F. Just the facts......

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    The first search of the house, in May. IMO
     
  15. Trackergd

    Trackergd SAR Search Manager and Footprint Tracker

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    It has historical precedent as used by some truly evil individuals, and why it always stands out to me as being a red flag.
    "A lie told often enough becomes truth"
    "Big Lie - The use of a lie so colossal that no one would believe that someone could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously"
     
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    Trackergd SAR Search Manager and Footprint Tracker

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    That would be a tough one Lilypad, construction people cut their hands, legs etc. on a regular basis. Growing up on a farm, my brother and I looked like battle casualties.
     
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    One thing that might be telling is the phone history between BM and MG and between BM and his other employees. Did BM talk more to one employee than others on a consistent basis? Were the conversations longer with MG or another employee than other conversations he had (even those he had with Suzanne)? Did BM talk to any certain employee more on Mother's Day weekend than usual? MG seemed to have an unusual familiarity with BM to me for a boss/employee relationship.
     
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  19. Hatfield

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    Re BBM
    Got to wondering about the strange phone messages to others from SM's phone.

    It seems to me that he may have been stumbling and spying through her phone and doing things on it that he thought would help to make it look like SM was still present and on her phone.

    From the outside looking in, we have seen where others alluded to him being the one in "control". I have to wonder just how much that control went in the years before she came up missing.

    Like maybe he already had total control of her phone or at least to be able to look at all her activity on her phone the whole time? Sort of like the parent control settings or Apps that are available. If he paid for all the phones on a family plan then I think there are settings and things where a parent can view activity on the phones they elect. Parent control settings and various Apps, and things like that.

    If so then he could control any incoming or outgoing messages to her family and he could stop their attempts to get ahold of her and visa-versa. If he had that type of control then over time, she may have really felt that she was all on her own with no family support.

    In turn, he may have also controlled the kid's phones where they could also get a false sense that none of the family in Indiana care about them anymore. He could get them thinking that nobody cares but him. This could explain why we have not heard about any communication with the children and her side of the family.

    The basis for these thoughts is we have heard from others how he was the one in control and also the words he just said recently about how he was the only one there for her when she got cancer. He may have had so much control of their phones that he gave the false illusion he was the only one that cared.

    In any event, those extra friend requests and strange phone activity from her phone will end up being very important. I hope LE is identifying exactly how and under what circumstances those messages were sent. That should give LE some extra evidence that will be important.
    All JMO
     
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    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your knowledge about this. I have a flip side question to that.

    As a selling agent, if a potential buyer flat out asks the selling agent if there is anything bad or stigmatized about the house that they should know about.....then would the selling agent be required to let the buyer know even if the seller told the selling agent that they did not want to volunteer that information?
     
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