CO CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #50

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  1. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    I can well understand that there are people who have not yet come forward, who may be able to contribute significantly to justice for Suzanne. I can think of a couple right off the top of my head, and a few more in Salida who may be very reluctant to tell what they know. I also think that some of these people could be issued a subpoena and testify at some point in future, but that LE would prefer them to volunteer what they know.

    I think many states have a type of subpoena, frequently used in domestic violence cases, where the respondent has to show up in closed court to testify initially in front of a judge. I know I've had students over the years subpoenaed (reluctantly) into criminal cases both inside and outside their families, including murder cases.
     


  2. Teche

    Teche Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, Suzanne had no contact with her family. If BM was monitoring her every social media contact and phone calls, Suzanne was able to go out and about without her children and husband. I wish that she had purchased a go-phone to have private phone contact with her birth family. Numerous apps can be hidden on your phone. Those of us that followed Chris Watts thread, learned of an app that was disguised behind a calculator icon that he used to contact his mistress.
     
  3. rainbowshummingbird

    rainbowshummingbird Well-Known Member

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    Sincerely, I am not understanding your complaint with LE. It appears that LE is investigating and seeking information about Suzanne’s online activities. I’m not sure how this is a negative, am I missing something?
     
  4. AmandaReckonwith

    AmandaReckonwith Defective Detective

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    Barry's friends and relatives.
     
  5. K9Enzo

    K9Enzo Well-Known Member

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    You have misunderstood. I have zero complaints with LE.

    LE is seeking information from SM “devoted friends” according to CCSO last press release. These folks, IMO, need to get on with it and tell LE what they know. She’s been missing for 6 + months. Enough. IMO

    ETA: Suzanne Morphew case remains a priority to the Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office - Chaffee County Sheriff
     
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  6. Error505

    Error505 Well-Known Member

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    MOO I think it could have been a plea to SM’s daughters, as well as “friends”. But I’m thinking LE was making a plea to the girls. I just got that feeling when I read the last PR.
    Hope the extra pressure and latest PR keeps BM awake at night, at a minimum! Arrest can’t come soon enough. The new DA sounds like a dandy!
     
  7. K9Enzo

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    That’s an interesting angle I had not thought about. Hmmm...
     
  8. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    This is what I think, too. I think with strong evidence of motive or ongoing DV, LE will have a better chance with probable cause in getting more information/evidence.

    Suzanne and BM are likely not the only two people who knew about DV, which I firmly think existed. I think they're looking for very specific information and possibly not from friends of Suzanne, but from friends of other family members.
     
  9. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    Okay - there, you said it. Exactly what I'm thinking as well. A teacher, a friend, a parent of a friend...might come forward. I can imagine that these people might be very cautious, due to true concern about the girls. This could also include a boyfriend of either girl. I think LE thinks that some people know something very specific about the family situation, and that this information might even be the crux of the case at this point.
     
  10. hpruitt

    hpruitt Well-Known Member

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    Thank you! I'm very much at peace with the whole situation although I have not talked to any of my dad's family since the funeral except for an aunt.

    I thought I read somewhere that GM was diagnosed 3 weeks before SM "went missing" and that any contact the Moorman family had with SM was done through BM. I guess where I was going with my thought process is that even though they hadn't had a chance to talk with SM about the diagnosis, maybe she found out somehow from a friend that she might have been talking to through 1 of the secret apps (Rumor mills and stuff?) and she hadn't had a chance to talk with her family about it yet since BM didn't allow her much contact with them? I'm guessing the last thing BM would want (allow) to happen is for SM to go home to be with her family in a place familiar to her with a large support system hundreds of miles away from his watchful eye. It could be plausible that she was making a plan for "just in case" before she discussed it with her family and BM.

    If there was domestic abuse happening in that household, I wonder how things would have played out with her dad's diagnosis had SM not gone missing? Surely she would have wanted to go back to IN. I wonder what BM would have had to say about it then?

    The whole secret app, talking to who knows who about who knows what is killing me. Secret app = secrets from BM because who else would she be keeping secrets from to have to use secret apps? Vicious circle of questions!
    And if he's not guilty, wouldn't he be acting any/every other way than the way he's acting now? Ugh!
     
  11. Mimi in London

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    Those couple of phrases from the last PR had been niggling at me. I realised police were trying to say something very specific, probably to someONE very specific.

    Now what you’re suggesting makes sense. Especially if BM and the girls were under the impression Suzanne had been persuaded to cut all contact with old friends (Dad didn’t like it). Now police are telling them, actually she DID stay in touch with people she loved, implying she trusted them enough to confide in them about the state of the marriage.

    Maybe police are saying, ‘You won’t get BM into NEW trouble by telling us about his bullying. We know anyway, so you may as well talk to us.”
     
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    If I’m remembering correctly, AM called SM on her birthday just before she disappeared. AM has said he had trouble reaching SM, his thinking was maybe the bad cell service at PP home. That’s why he would call BM to check on SM, but BM seldom returned the calls. BM is the one putting out lies that SM never heard from her family bc they didn’t care about her. I’m crunched for time, but I’ll find the referenced link abt AM’s birthday call to SM, I want to say her BD was in March or April.
    If I’m remembering incorrectly, please feel free to correct me. Having trouble keeping facts & speculation separated lately on this case, no help from the bad info BM puts out.
    MOO, of course.
     
  13. kkdj

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    Wow! That's a powerful post!
     
  14. Puzzles8

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    I wonder if the recent "social media" press conference signals a change in LE approach to this case. LE never holds a press conferences unless they have to. LE is finally asking for the public's or her friends and family for help.

    Sadly, I agree with many here and think this will be a no body case. Without a body, the prosecutor has to build a stronger backstory, and present a very strong case for DV.

    JMO
     
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    It's possible the friends she shared this with might be fearful themselves from their own abusers.
     
  16. Cindizzi

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    Here is AM speaking about reaching out to his sister on her birthday April 30 of this year.

     
  17. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    SM's birthday was April 30 and she vanished 10 days later.
     
  18. Teche

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    Thank you for your response. I had forgotten this information.
     
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    Thank you @Cindizzi & @Seattle1, you guys are always on top of things & keep us all straight!

    ETA: I am surely missing others who do a good job as well, so Thank you to all who contribute to this thread & finding Justice for Suzanne!
     
  20. 10ofRods

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    You don't think that having direct testimony who either saw BM threaten Suzanne with violence or death, or heard him do so, would add to the case?

    Maybe someone who had seen him attempt to physically harm her sometime in the past? And perhaps that person has told others about the incident - but is the sole direct witness?

    I too can envision non-BM scenarios, but apparently LE has him squarely in their sights (and so does Suzanne's family). IMO.

    At any rate, any witnesses to domestic violence in the Morphew home will likely be family members or close associates of family members. If that violence included verbal threats and, say, grabbing someone by the throat, then the D.A. knows she can find expert testimony that will truly bolster a no body case. If it happened at intervals and there's a timeline presented by various witnesses (be great if there were more than one) and if those who had observed the DV mentioned to others before Suzanne's disappearance, even better.

    All kinds of other details are useful (like the person who heard BM say that "Suzanne's not going anywhere" while Suzanne was trying to plan a trip with girlfriends, IIRC) but someone who saw DV or heard specific threats would be much more useful.

    A lot of us who survived DV and were in the process of trying to get out of the relationship do in fact confide in others ("If I ever disappear, you'll know who did it" kind of thing). If that were combined with someone who had directly witnessed BM threaten or attempt harm on Suzanne, that would be powerful at trial.
     
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