Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

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SamaraM said:
I don't think BM accused the acquaintance of anything. Other than saying he spent nine years in jail. I just thought Mr. multiple felony's public roasting of BM was a little over the top. It's the only reason I even considered looking at him at all. There is a correlation between repeat felons and violent crimes. Not saying he's guilty, just saying he is someone I would look at.
I don't think trusting a friend of her husband's makes Suzanne a bad person, whatsoever. These guys are really good at knowing what to say to gain a person's trust. And you can't always tell what a person is capable of by looking at them.
Which goes back to BM. Maybe he is more sophisticated than he seems. I don't know.
I'm convinced this crime was someone with experience committing crimes.
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I’m convinced Barry is a master manipulator honestly . He was trashing his character to make him seem less credible , that’s all Barry was doing .

Moo
 
EggSalad said:
I think we’re a lot more likely to see a darknet search history on BM’s devices for a murder for hire than we are that being the scenario that played out.

A hit man would have no need to come up with a half assed bike ride scenario. They could have just gone to the home while BM was working, shot SM dead, left her on the floor and drive off. They wouldn’t dispose of the body and plant a bike. Not to mention how horrible BM’s alibi is, given that he would have set all of this up way in advance.
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That is definitely something I can see , him possibly searching for a murder for hire but never actually paying anyone to do it!!

moo
 
Minordetails said:
1) When was she murdered?
2) How was she murdered?
3) Why was she murdered?
4) Where was she murdered?

Is it essential for the prosecution to have definite answers to these questions? Is ok for the prosecution to be vague in the details when explaining what happened to Suzanne?
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The why + how = who! Or it’s supposed to be this equation ... it’s not always so simple . I think Barry knew no body would hold things up. He knew what he was doing when he hid her . If he’s guilty.
Moo
 
Maybe Barry was just jealous of Suzanne also. She was beautiful have beat cancer twice like a rockstar, had a loving friends a loving family… Then there he is… Aging not taking care of himself very well, doesn’t seem like he had as much loving family around him like Suzanne‘s family. Maybe he just couldn’t take anymore because he just couldn’t compete with how great she was.

moo
 
Rachelj1 said:
The why + how = who! Or it’s supposed to be this equation ... it’s not always so simple . I think Barry knew no body would hold things up. He knew what he was doing when he hid her . If he’s guilty.
Moo
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BBM
So did Patrick Frazee. Boy was he wrong! But I think this situation was a one man show, unlike the Frazee dumb and dumber show.
 
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EggSalad said:
I think we’re a lot more likely to see a darknet search history on BM’s devices for a murder for hire than we are that being the scenario that played out.

A hit man would have no need to come up with a half assed bike ride scenario. They could have just gone to the home while BM was working, shot SM dead, left her on the floor and drive off. They wouldn’t dispose of the body and plant a bike. Not to mention how horrible BM’s alibi is, given that he would have set all of this up way in advance.
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Unless the person he hired botched the job and ended up calling BM to help him dispose of SM. At this point, anything is possible. MOO Can’t wait for some facts to come out.
 
Janeumayer said:
Unless the person he hired botched the job and ended up calling BM to help him dispose of SM. At this point, anything is possible. MOO Can’t wait for some facts to come out.
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I think BM thinks he's a pretty smart guy and knows some things about how investigations and evidence work. I don't think he involved anybody else in this if he's indeed at fault.
 
Rachelj1 said:
I’m convinced Barry is a master manipulator honestly . He was trashing his character to make him seem less credible , that’s all Barry was doing .

Moo
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Agreed.
And I think if you're an upstanding employer, you do not have to mention anyone's shady past.
Be the best and honest person you can be, and it helps if you work well with others and your employees and others whose jobs come in contact with yours will want to work with you.
Your reputation will speak for itself.

Back to Suzanne, it was said (I think) early in a previous thread that her husband seemed to think someone took her or that she met someone (paraphrased by me) "...known to her...".
If she was being held captive I doubt it would be for this long, and if she left of her own volition, I don't think she'd keep her family in such prolonged doubt and fear.

Imo.
 
kkdj said:
I think BM thinks he's a pretty smart guy and knows some things about how investigations and evidence work. I don't think he involved anybody else in this if he's indeed at fault.
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I agree with you ! I do think that probably some people around him close to him probably are very suspicious though, But I doubt they would ever ever admit it.

moo
 
LietKynes said:
Agreed.
And I think if you're an upstanding employer, you do not have to mention anyone's shady past.
Be the best and honest person you can be, and it helps if you work well with others and your employees and others whose jobs come in contact with yours will want to work with you.
Your reputation will speak for itself.

Back to Suzanne, it was said (I think) early in a previous thread that her husband seemed to think someone took her or that she met someone (paraphrased by me) "...known to her...".
If she was being held captive I doubt it would be for this long, and if she left of her own volition, I don't think she'd keep her family in such prolonged doubt and fear.

Imo.
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Yes, I remember that that was one of his theories! He has a very good imagination, I’ll give him that!

moo
 
The thing also that has kind of bothered me is ...Barry, he obviously didn’t think too badly about his employees before because he hired them? He worked with them he trusted them with his equipment. I honestly feel like maybe he was trying to throw them under the bus and get them looked at. They did the right thing by coming forward.
Moo
 
LietKynes said:
bbm ... In fact she wasn't going to invite a known felon into her residence...
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@LietKynes sbm Re bbm Just for the sake of discussion, do we know as a fact that SM was unaware that one specific employee (or possibly multiple employees) had criminal conviction(s) & had served prison time?
Is it possible BM did not tell her & she did not learn thru Chaffee County grapevine, so she simply did not know?
I tend to think someone in her position would learn of this, but maaaybeee not.

I've forgotten if W/S threads discussed nature of the crime(s) the employee served time for. Murder, inflicting great bodily harm, fraud, embezzlement, dealing street drugs, possessing marijuana pre-CO. recreational legalization, arson, stalking, armed robbery, or ___? If she had known it was a property crime, rather than a crime against person, I wonder if that would that have made any difference in her decision to admit/not admit employee to PP home while BM was away? Just wondering, no conclusions, my2ct.
 
Hi, I’ve been active elsewhere but lurking here since May 20th. This is my first post on WebSleuths.
Let’s go back to day one. The gravel in the tread of Suzanne’s bike tires could reveal whether the bike was tossed in the ditch, purely as a ruse, or if she was abducted from her bike ride. Let me elaborate:

Background: The route Suzanne typically rode on her bike was from her home, down her subdivision road to a little subdivision bridge across Little River to a spur road of CR225. There she could ride down 225
along the river to Fooses dam or up towards US50 (or both). The bike was found on CR225, not far from US50. Locals say she would not have ridden the shoulder of US50 to get to CR225 because it too dangerous.

The spur and CR225 have a commercial type of gravel, as governments tend to buy. Her driveway and her subdivision streets are a darker, more “upscale” type of gravel.
Therefore, The PREVIOUS TIME she rode the bike HOME, the tire tread would have picked up that type of gravel before she put it in the garage. IF that darker gravel was in the tires when it was found it is likely the killer DROVE the bike to CR225 and tossed the bike in the ditch as a ruse.

If Suzanne RODE her bike to CR225 where the bike was found ... the tread would have a lot of commercial grade gravel.

So, analysis of the bike tires could show murder or abduction. The bike languishes in the CCSO Evidence Room.
 
@KindaSleuthy that is super interesting ! I’m glad you called and they called you back . You know what is the wildest thing in this whole sad situation , Barry . How can he spit out all these theories ? Cat , attacked, abduction , abduction from the house by someone she knew ? It’s like he was setting up all these scenarios Bc he knew their would be questions . This is the bottom line IMO , LE searched all properties and their home more than once . They had to have a LOT of probable cause . Le would not of done that unless they suspect him. They won’t name him, they never do publicly normally .
I am sure that Barry most likely has an attorney and that is what has saved him thus far too .
Moo

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al66pine said:
@LietKynes sbm Re bbm Just for the sake of discussion, do we know as a fact that SM was unaware that one specific employee (or possibly multiple employees) had criminal conviction(s) & had served prison time?
Is it possible BM did not tell her & she did not learn thru Chaffee County grapevine, so she simply did not know?
I tend to think someone in her position would learn of this, but maaaybeee not.

I've forgotten if W/S threads discussed nature of the crime(s) the employee served time for. Murder, inflicting great bodily harm, fraud, embezzlement, dealing street drugs, possessing marijuana pre-CO. recreational legalization, arson, stalking, armed robbery, or ___? If she had known it was a property crime, rather than a crime against person, I wonder if that would that have made any difference in her decision to admit/not admit employee to PP home while BM was away? Just wondering, no conclusions, my2ct.
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I always enjoy your posts . You have a way of looking at things from different angles. My whole thing with Suzanne letting him in while Barry is away is this .... there is no way he would of got away with this. I’m sure Le investigated him thoroughly just like MG. I just don’t see it . I mean I’ll admit he has a hefty past , BUT Barry trusted him enough to hire him. Another thing Barry is the only one throwing out all these crazy theories at first . Who in the world would do that ? Someone trying to put ideas in LE and the public’s head that’s who .

I don’t think Barry was away ... according to Him he didn’t leave Suzanne until 5:00am. He kind of already messed himself up there !

Moo
 
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