Discussion in 'Crimes in the News' started by snarkymalarkey, Sep 6, 2012.
Aspen is 29 miles away.
OK, it's really strange how they list the cities, but from what I could squint, there's much less snowfall in the area than I imagined! I pictured Denver to be all snowy, Aspen even more so, but it looks like very little! I'm surprised. I'm going to have to ask my Denver friend about that.
It is easier to read if you can print it out. I can't see all those little numbers on the screen. There is a legend that tells you what the asterics mean and so forth somewhere on there.
How much snow is going on there? I really can't see the numbers, lol. I thought it would be a snowy area too.
The bottom link has all the options for looking futher.
As far as I know, we have yet to get any official arrest or call or anything about any of these people concerning this case. One was arrested shortly after in an unrelated issue, and another was arrested recently on an unrelated issue. But, since they weren't arrested for this case or named by officials, we can't discuss them in relation to this case.
Maybe if we can find a call sheet where they say one was questioned about this issue, then we can discuss that. I haven't found anything tho.
If you go to youtube and type in first snowfall CO 2011 surrounding towns got snow in Oct 2011.
I am guessing snow was on the ground in the fall.
I haven't finished reading yet, so not sure if anyone mentioned this but this story reminds me of the case of Cindy James, a nurse who claimed she was being stalked and was eventually found dead in a ditch. She was hog tied and injected with morphine. The police called it a suicide/accident and claimed she had been staging the stalking incidents herself.
That is odd because I found that there was a snow storm that moved across CO on Dec 1, 2011. I don't know anything about CO weather patterns, so I don't know if that means it's safe to assume Carbondale had snow too. . .but Denver definitely did.
It’s snowing in Denver and along the Front Range this morning, and snow is likely to continue throughout the day.
Snow accumulations should be minimal for the morning commute, but roads are wet, icy and slushy in some areas. Hills and bridges could be problematic and commuters should allow for extra time this morning.
The quick-moving winter storm, out of the north, is blowing across Colorado, bringing up to a foot of snow in some places today. Snow on the Eastern Plains will be driven by strong winds.
The National Weather Service has issued a winter storm warning for areas south and east of Denver, where the heaviest snow is expected, through the afternoon
My heart goes out to Morgan's parents/family and friends...she obviously was such a special girl..
I just am honestly having such a hard time believing that this could be "murder" - if it is it would be one of the most unconventional ways to commit it.
I do believe that from the posts that Morgan was stalked (bullied)...and that this may have contributed to her death due to OD or medicine miscalculatrions on her part.
I want to give the benefit of the doubt to her mom = I ache for her; feel her pain; wish her strength...
This is such a sad case...
maybe Morgan was trying to self-medicate without her parent's or doctors approval..I don't know...I just know that the facts that are being presented to us are from a deeply grieving Mom (and rightly so), but maybe facts are skewed a bit due to grief...
And that's okay... just maybe not entirely un-biased.
In any case, take care Morgan's Mom...you are fighting for your daughter the best way you know how..god bless, stay strong...i hope someday you find peace...
I typed in Denver and they had their first major snowfall in Oct. Now to see what was going on in Carbondale!
So on this page I found a picture of "welcomed snowfall in carbondale" from Jan 2011 http://www.wunderground.com/worldview/?collection=58
Then found this site http://www.mountainproject.com/v/the-2011-12-colorado-ice-conditions-thread/107318739__6#a_107396787 (just crl-F for find and type in Carbondale) where a poster says as of Dec 2, 2011, there wasn't much in the way of snow, and it had been pretty warm.
They do get snow, tho, because this page shows the city budgeted funding for snow removal: http://www.carbondalegov.org/vertic...bondale_audited_2011_financial_statements.pdf
This page says the city averages 69 inches of snow a year (another site said 45): http://www.carbondale.com/town but doesn't say in which months, altho it does say that snowboarding and skiing are available 30 miles away.
And to think I was going to spend the day working on my business plan . . . .
Wow, lemon. Thank you for that.
There was a case of a man found hanging in a tree in a very racist city, one that is known for white supremists. He was dark-skinned. The news flash was very late at night, appeared one time, then never again. I just happened to catch it. They showed the body. He was up about 20 feet (the lowest branches of the tree) with his hands tied behind his back. It was called a suicide.
Sometimes there is a hidden agenda and blatant lies by officials.
I just don't see it in M's case.
Exactly. Sometimes the LE lies. Why is is so hard for people to believe this "could" be the same thing with this case?
Not sure why you are comparing this case to a racist crime?
There was no dust or fingerprints disturbed on the outside of the windowsill. But somebody set the fires from inside the home. And wouldve had to climb through that window. Now that should have been one sign. Also, she said she was out walking her dog late at night that night. Now, if somebody was being attacked, why would they go out alone walking their dog, three oclock in the morning? Does that make sense? :thud:
Murder could be found if she was given some type of date rape cocktail and died in her sleep.
Or if she was being "poisoned" for lack of a better word unbeknownst to her.
Is unbeknownst even a word? LOL
I'm not denying that sometimes LE lies, and I'm not saying that couldn't be the case here. All I'm saying is that I can't, in good conscious, suspend logic and reason and rely only on emotions. I'm willing to believe Morgan was murdered, if there is evidence pointing in that direction, but so far there is not.
That house has really unusual windows that appear to go up to the ceiling...They didn't realize the stalker was on the roof...If it possible the windows open at the very top and would not be a point of entry for someone on the ground?
I actually wonder if she had been slipped stimulants the last few weeks of her life...wondering if a hair test would tell? My kids are both on Ritalin and it does cause loss of both appetite and sleep. If you don't actually have ADHD, it can really provoke anxiety, anger, and sometimes worse...I did try the medication myself, and it was the worst day of my life...I just felt haunted, tense and agitated.
I actually wondered if their trash was stolen because someone was investigating them...either LE or MSM.
Yes, it is.
There is a little black box that comes up on the top of the page where you can make the font much larger.
Comparing it to the story; hands tied behind the back, yet called a suicide. Another example: My father did a case on a "suicide". The guy was stabbed 7 times in the back. The ME insisted it was suicide. It wasn't.
But, this case isn't like those at all.
My point was that sometimes LE does lie. In the case I gave, because of the racial background of the city and the bad press they were trying to avoid, they lied about how that man died. In this case there is no reason for LE to lie.