Discussion in 'Lisa Irwin' started by nursebeeme, Oct 22, 2011.
thread to discuss the differing accounts and statements given by the parents.
link to MK interviews
Brilliant blog post here:
10/21/11 press release
Interview with Judge Jeanine Pirro
October 6 Parents Answer Reporters' Questions.
GMA Dan Abrams Talks to Parents
At marker 3:52, is that the box of wine on the kitchen table?
Up until this point, I've believed that JI is simply shellshocked and he has nothing to do with this. But after seeing their interview with Pirro vs. their interview with Megyn Kelly on FOX, both of them contradicting their thoughts about the window, I'm not so sure. They're sticking together like glue, IMO. I understand Tacopina swooped in and basically programmed them, but it's strange how they would disagree together, then agree together.
u know the most heart breaking thing about that interview is when one reporter asks what they boys are saying and JI says something like "everytime we speak to someone they come running up and ask if they found her". that probably is the only thing i believe is true IMO
I don't think so. They were being interviewed off-site in someone else's home. It was referred to as a "safe-home" by one local reporter which sounded kind of odd.
Very very good... I especially like this part. No beating around the bush.
It's GREAT. Ballsy. Love it! I wish Valhall would have sourced the litany of discrepancies, by line item. I'd love to check them all out for myself.
10/5/2011 Press Conference with Lisas Parents
JI: Monday night, or Tuesday morning, our daughter Lisa was taken from our home. Um, we just urge anyone that has any kind of information to, as to where she is or who shes with, or anything, to please call the, uh, Tip Hotline or the police. And anything, even the smallest bit of information could help lead to her return. Uh, anybody that might have her, uh, uh, they can drop her off at any place safe, fire station, or hospital, or a church, no questions asked. We are, uh, just want her back.
DB: We just want our baby back. Please, bring her home. Our two other boys are waiting for her, please, just drop her off anywhere. We dont care, just somewhere safe so she can come home, please.
JI: We uh, wanted to thank everyone thats out here, the Kansas City police, the FBI, and search and rescue, and all the volunteers that are helping with the investigation. And um, The Center of Missing Children, and, uh, just ask you to keep her in her thoughts and prayers and help her bring her home.
10/6/2011 Interview with DB and JI from KMBC.
DB: [first few words are inaudible]
no questions asked, just drop her off with somebody, at a hospital, a church, the fire department, the police station, anywhere. Just please bring her home.
Reporter: Jeremy, as we understand, you came home in the overnight hours. What did you find at 4 a.m., when you walked in the door?
JI: When I came home from work, the front door was unlocked, most of the lights were on in the house, and the window was, in the front, was open. Obviously, all very unusual and then I started checking on the kids. Checked on the boys first, and then we checked on her, thats when we realized she was gone.
Reporter: Can you imagine Jeremy, or remember, anyone that would want to take your daughter, who would want to harm you, or anything like that?
DB: The only thing I can think of is, you know, maybe somebody wanted a baby, and she
I hope thats what it is.
Reporter: What do you want to tell that person, other than dropping them off, I mean, what do you want to tell them about Lisa?
DB: Um, shes, shes everything. Shes our little girl, shes the center of our family and shes, she means everything to my boys, and we, we c, we need her home. I cant, I cant be without her.
Reporter: Deborah, how are you explaining to the, to the two boys what is happening? And how are they taking all this in?
DB: Um, um, I, the, I just try to tell them that were gonna stay strong, were a family, were gonna pray, and, uh, shes gonna come home. That we have to be strong for her.
Reporter: I understand that you were showing pictures to the boys and you call her Pumpkin Pie. Can you talk to us about that and about what the boys are saying, what they are wondering?
JI: They just every time we talk to somebody, the police or anything, they run up and give us a hug and say, Did they find her yet? We always tell them, Not yet, not yet. Thats the only thing we know to tell them. Its
Reporter: Can you talk about whats in your hand here?
JI: Um, this is her Barney that she sleeps with every night. She, sometimes, she wont go to sleep without it. So, um, Id like to have her back, so she can have her Barney, and her family, her brothers. Just, we need her home.
Reporter: Did it look like anything was disturbed in her room? Did anything look out of place, other than her not being there?
DB: No. No. Its like they just walked in and just g, just disappeared.
JI: They took her and took all of our phones so we couldnt call anybody.
Reporter: They took your cell phones?
JI: Yeah. They took all the phones.
DB: They were on the counter in the kitchen. And there was, uh, whenever we, we woke up, I woke up, and he came home and I was, and he said, Shes not in her crib and I said, What do you mean shes not in the crib?. And I just knew, you know, something was really wrong. Were running around the house and were screaming for her, and she was nowhere, and then I said, Call 911, call 911, and he said, Where are the phones? And they werent on the counter where I left them, they were gone.
Reporter: Did the boys hear anything at all? You said you, you, you had to wake the boys. Did, did they not hear anything coming in the window, or
JI: Uh, I dont think so. The window that was open is nowhere near their bedroom, so, I dont think they heard anything or, theyre both pretty heavy sleepers.
Reporter: What on the other side of that window that was left opened? Is that the living room window, the bedroom window?
DB: Its actually the computer room where, its an extra living room.
JI: Computer room. [DB is talking over him.]
Reporter: As another day has passed now, how do you, how do you move forward with police being here, with your lives being
? I mean, have you had any sleep, tell us what you do today.
DB: Uh, uh, Ive had a couple hours, but, um, not much. I mean, I close my eyes and I see her. I cant
But I mean, were just trying to hold it together for, for our boys and for her. Just, you know, stay strong for her, so that we can try to think of anything, or anyone, or, any reason that this might have happened, and we still havent, but
Reporter: Are you saying both your phones were taken as well?
DB: Yeah, um, three, three were taken. Um, 1 wasnt even working, and it was sitting up there next to the other ones, I was reprogramming, I mean, all the numbers and all three of them were gone.
Reporter: What else was missing from your home? Anything else?
DB: We didnt, we didnt look, but, I dont think so.
JI: Nothing that we know of.
DB: I mean, we called the cops, we ran outside, we waited for them, and you know, he was looking around outside, and I was just, you know, just holding my boys and they were crying and asking Whats going on?, Wheres she at, why is she gone? and I mean , you know, and, the police came and I waved them down, I mean, I didnt even check to, around the house. I didnt think to care about any of that, I still dont.
Reporter: Do you remember your last moments with Lisa? I mean, what were you doing? What was it like?
DB: Just change her, you know, put fresh clothes on her, and get her ready for bed, and gave her her bottle, and made sure her binky was in her crib in case she needed it, and she sleeps with her Barney, and she sleeps with her GloWorm and her blanket and that was, that was it.
Reporter: Are you hopeful that you are going to find her soon?
DB: Im terrified, but Im trying to be hopeful.
Reporter: You folks said that you, you didnt know anybody that would do this, but did you notice anyone that had, maybe, an unusual interest in your child?
DB: I know everybody loves her. I mean, I go to the store and everybody says shes beautiful, you know, and you, she likes everybody, shes really playful and shes, uh, really sweet, and, um, shell go to almost anyone. I mean, so I, I mean, anything beyond that, no.
Reporter: So, it wouldnt surprise you that she was picked up without crying?
DB: Well, yeah, she was sleeping and you, I mean
[talking over JI]
move her around and she wont even
DB: Sometimes she cries, it depends on how, how long of sleep shes had, but, I mean, if you pick her up and you cuddle with her, she probably wont cry.
[Varied reporters thanking them for the interview.]
DB: Thank you for coming out.
The spots in the transcripts where there are just one or two letters of a word, that's whatever part of the word they said before they changed their mind and reworded their statement. Not meant to signify guilt in any way, since we all have had that moment where we started to say something and then thought of a better way to word it.
10/7/2011 - Robin Roberts GMA Interview with Lisas Parents
You heard, um, in Dan Harris report, that the police are claiming that you have stopped cooperating. Is that true, Debbie?
DB: No, not at all. Since this, this, all this has happened, weve, um, never stopped cooperating.
RR: Jeremy, what would have led police to believe that you had stopped cooperating? What happened?
JI: We were, we were in interrogation for a really long time Tuesday, and we were there again yesterday answering questions and, I just, I c, couldnt take it anymore. I told him I had to have a break. I told them I couldnt do it anymore, and I couldnt answer any more questions today, and, I, I, I asked to be let go and, so they let us, the let me go from the police station and then, an hour later or so, when we saw the press conference from the, from them
RR: Its commonplace, uh, unfortunately, with something like this, that the police look at the family first because you were the last to see your precious little girl, and I know, Debbie, you and Jeremy have told our team on the ground there in Kansas City, led by Dan Harris, Debbie, you have said that the police have accused you outright, have told you that?
DB: From, from the start, theyve um, when I first, um, when they first questioned me, it, once I, uh, I couldnt fill in gaps, it turned into, um, you did it, and the, uh, they, uh, they put the picture down of her on the table, and they said, um, Look at your baby, and, um, Do whats right for her, and just tell everybody where she is so she can come home and I kept saying I dont know, I dont know, I dont know. And it, I, I, 11 hours of it, and I, I just sat there, and I mean, I dont, I didnt even ask to leave. I, I didnt ask for it stop. I wanted it to, but I, I didnt ask. I just let them keep asking questions until they were done.
RR: And youve also told our team that the, the police, they are claiming that youve failed a polygraph test. Is that true?
DB: Yeah. Yeah, um, yesterday we went in, or we um, we called, um, someone and told them we, we, we have more, um, suspects. It seemed like they were, um, gonna talk to us in the car, and then they separated us. We dont want anybody to feel like we, um, we were angry or, or, ungrateful. Um, we, we appreciate everything that everybody has done to try to bring her home, and uh, thats our main goal. I dont, I dont care what theyve done to me, I dont care what they say about me, I dont care what anybody says about me. I just want her to come home. Our, our focus is Lisa, is our Lisa coming home to be with us where she belongs. And whatever I have to do to get her home, well do it.
RR: So both of you, set the record straight, because you know when people hear that the police are claiming all these things and saying that you have stopped cooperating that they become skeptical and suspicious. So, set the record straight right now and reassure people, did you have anything to do with the abduction of your daughter?
DB: Absolutely not.
DB: We b, we do, we want, we cannot stress enough to thank the Kansas City Police Department, because, um, you know, this, this is their job, this is, this is part of the process, and we appreciate everything theyve done and, and all, all the volunteers and search and rescue and everybody thats
I mean, weve got strangers making up Facebooks in her name and, and, you know, uh, and the FBI has, has done everything and, um, we, we, we, um, if, weve, we forgot anyone, were sorry, but, um, its hard to remember everything right now, but, we really appreciate everything everyone has done and we just, we just want to bring Lisa home.
What a great article. Those questions are right on.
you are a doll! :woohoo::seeya:
10/6/2011 GMA interview with Lisas Parents
Reporter: So, so, so, Debbie, try and take us back to the last time you saw Lisa. You put her, you checked in on her around 10:30 Monday night?
DB: Um, Yeah. Between the time she went to bed and the time I went to bed, and uh, I gave her her bottle, I, I, I put her to sleep, and uh, that was the last time we seen her.
Reporter: And Jeremy, you got home just a few hours later and she just wasnt there.
JI: I returned home from work at around 4 a.m., and windows were open and lights were on, and she was nowhere to be found.
Reporter: Right there, thats so unusual. The windows open, the lights on. That wouldnt be normal at all?
JI: No, the front door was unlocked, also, so
Reporter: So I know youve spent a long time talking to the police. Do you, and wracked your brains. Do you have any idea, any idea of anyone connected to you who might have done this?
DB: Thats the worst part, is we dont, we dont have a clue.
JI: Weve been going over everything in our minds since this happened, we, we just dont have any idea.
[Platitudes from reporter].
Reporter: You also have two other, uh, children. What have you been able to tell them? How are they handling all this?
DB: They, uh, they were doing alright for a little while, uh,they, they cried a little bit. Um, when we, we first noticed she was gone, um, they were crying and asking where she was, and, um, my 8 year old, whos usually really strong, he, he kinda fell apart, and, wheres, we call her, uh, we call her Pumpkin Pie, and he said, Wheres, where is, Pumpkin Pie, Mom? And I, I couldnt tell him.
Reporter: Well, we are all praying that whoever took Lisa, brings her back. What do you want to say to that person?
DB: Please, she has a family that loves her very much, and just take her somewhere safe. Take her to a church, a hospital, a fire department, just drop her off with somebody and then leave, no questions asked. We just want our baby back.