Connection between Oklahoma girl scout murders and West Memphis three?

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  1. nikod

    nikod New Member

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    I live in Oklahoma and recently listened to episodes on both cases (OK girl scout murders and West Memphis three). I've always felt that whoever murdered the West Memphis boys had to have been a serial killer because it was so ritualistic and well planned. After listening to an episode regarding the girl scout murders, a few things stuck out to me. Each murder involved 3 children around the same age. The kids in both cases were girl scouts and boy/cub scouts. Both were murdered outside in nature. Last, Arkansas borders Oklahoma, so there's similar geography. Do you think anyone has ever compared the two cases? Can anyone compare the two cases to look for any other connections?
     
  2. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    Hi nikod,

    Welcome to Websleuths! I haven't studied the West Memphis murders in a while. The person(s) who killed the Girl Scouts in Oklahoma left some DNA. Testing years later showed the killer had DNA with strong indication of coming from a Native American.

    There hasn't been much recent analysis of the DNA gathered from the WM3 victims in a while, but perhaps someone should review it again. Either way, there was never any indication I've seen that the WM3 DNA came from someone with a Native American haplotype.

    Just reading up on the WM3 case, they really should be doing some more DNA analysis on that case. It really needs to be resolved. JMO, I'm still not 100% convinced some of the suspects they convincted and released weren't actually guilty.
     
  3. nikod

    nikod New Member

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    Hi Betty!

    From my understanding, authorities just said that the hair "could come from a Native American", but that doesn't necessarily mean that's the actual case. I know they had a native suspect, so they could've been trying to fit the evidence to the suspect.

    Either way, I think it would be interesting to put the cases side by side to see if there are any similarities to the cases.
     
  4. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    Yes, there were later DNA tests that showed very close (though not 100% conclusive) mtDNA compatibility with the accused killer, Gene Leroy Hart, a full-fledged Native American.

    www.websleuths.com/forumhttpss/threads/ok-girl-scout-murders-lori-farmer-8-michelle-guse-9-doris-milner-10-1977.5374/page-49#post-14541712

    But, sure, it would be interesting to compare the two cases.
     
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    jld321 New Member

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    From what I understand about the dna analysis, there were 5 strands of dna to process, 3 could have come from Hart, but the other 2 could not be linked to him, so it's actually not helpful to connecting him. Plus there was other evidence that pointed away from him. Though some people speculate (much like in WM3) that there were 2 perpetrators. I also see some similarities in the cases. They were about 20 years apart, but if the killer(s) were in their 20s with the girl scout case, then their 40s in the WM3 case, that would be reasonable. Also there are a couple of major highways that connect the 2 areas. They are 5 to 6 hours apart, but along major thoroughfares. It seems to me unlikely that there would be 20 years without other murders in between unless they were in jail for an unrelated case during that time, or unless they had one off murders. I'd be really curious to see if other kids in that age range were murdered near those highways during the time in between.
     
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    deathvalley69 Former Member

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    The Girl Scouts were killed in 1977; the West Memphis boys in 1993. The distance between the two cases: about 400 miles. Native American Gene Leroy Hart, the only person tried for the Camp Scott murders, was found not guilty.
     

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