Conrad Murray trial -Day nineteen.

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  1. borndem

    borndem Anglophile & registered demwit

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    Good stuff -- but Wally is being a bit bully-ish, IMO. This guy is being pretty forthcoming, I think, and Wally is almost in-his-face. I'd like to see him back off a bit unless he knows something about this guy that we don't know. The witness is getting his back up and his neck is about to bow-up.
     


  2. Credence

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    Most of these questions would not need to have been asked or Walgren would have been better prepared had this expert handed in a written report.

    Don't understand how he was allowed not to when the Judge was so adamant he wanted reports by the experts.
     
  3. octobermoon

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    wow is right. sheesh. Can he be called a hostile witness on cross?
     
  4. Credence

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    No, only on direct and it has to be declared by the court.
     
  5. luvbeaches

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    Dr. Waldman is certainly combative. Not doing the defense any favors. He comes off as arrogant.
     
  6. borndem

    borndem Anglophile & registered demwit

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    Wow!! You are amazing -- again. These notes are great, especially for those of us who go back later & review, or when we miss a bit of testimony. Thanks, WS'er!
     
  7. Credence

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    I guess he could back off a bit -- but the witness is really being obstinate too.
     
  8. octobermoon

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    Okay now he is just being a butt-head (my grandson's term)
     
  9. CarolinaMoon

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    In a sense, all witnesses for the opposing side are considered hostile in that the cross-examening attorney can as leading questions, which Waldron just stated was "putting words in my mouth". Pastor told him that's what he can do!
     
  10. Credence

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    Great summary and points made by Walgren on how it would take a multi-factoral team to address addiction something obviously Dr. Murray could not have done alone.
     
  11. luvbeaches

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    Exactly! If I were a juror, I'd have a problem believing what he has to say. He's pushy and seems to be angry and agitated. His snotty comebacks to the prosecutor doesn't look good.
     
  12. peace9274

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    He forgot to say "and good nurses" as part of the detox & treatment team. :)

    (And mental health workers and a substance abuse counselor!)
     
  13. peace9274

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    Walgren: When was the last time you used demerol?

    Dr W: Never, if ever. (I think he said)

    As an addiction specialist, there wouldn't be a reason for the witness to use demerol, would there be?
     
  14. Credence

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    I honestly wish Klein had testified as to his records. Is there different doses of demerol one would give for sedation? Also, Klein said on Larry King he was not doing "plastic surgery". He was actually restructuring MJ's face so would not be just routine boxtox or restylane treatments as most of us know about filling wrinkles.
     
  15. borndem

    borndem Anglophile & registered demwit

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    The MD just stated that Demerol has a half-lift of 8 hrs at most, so he would expect to see w/drawal symptoms within that time.

    This would also account, IMO, for its absence at autopsy.

    Interesting.
     
  16. octobermoon

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    Looking at a chart prepared for the defense. But it isn't this witness's chart. UH OH.
    Looks like the defense tried to pull a fast one.
     
  17. Credence

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    OMG -- DT gave the state that chart? Were they misrepresenting that it came from the expert?
     
  18. Plumeria5

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  19. peace9274

    peace9274 Well-Known Member

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    OH OH... CM has a new bald patch.
     
  20. katydid23

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    Where else would that chart come from?
     

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