Conrad Murray trial -Day twelve.

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  1. Soulmagent

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    Thanx for the above links and the video, soulmagent.

    Here's another one while we're waiting. One of my favs.

    http://youtu.be/_4COxumzxKw
     
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    MsBashterd Have mouth will travel no charge

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    Good Morning Kidzs how is the house this am?

    Thanxs for the video links
    This is one of my Fav's Janet and MJ looking fantastic

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    MsBashterd Have mouth will travel no charge

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    Sorry double post not enough coffe yet.

    Anyone know if there is a ipod app for the trial hubby flying in this afternoon (yea) and I will be driving up to Denver right smack in the middle of testimony and that just will not due.
     
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    peace9274 New Member

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    Can your DH take public transportation home?
     
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    :floorlaugh:
     
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    Go to the bathroom, get your coffee, snacks, turn off your phone, close the curtains...

    10 minutes to showtime.
     
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    MsBashterd Have mouth will travel no charge

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    :floorlaugh: and another one :floorlaugh: I would say heck yea he can take the bus to the Springs, now his response to that would be seek therapy for your addiction please.

    Here is your link for your app!

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    Bless you Soul bless you :seeya:
     
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    Here we go. Flanagan up to cross examine Dr. Kamangar (sp)
     
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    The show is underway. Flannegan is up.
     
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    Defense just asked for question and answer to be stricken from the record.

    Apparently defense did not get the answer they wanted.

    Talking about MJ being resistant to treatment.
     
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    All Flanagan seems to be doing so far is repeating some of the things in the police interview and getting witness to acknowledge he did see or not see certain things.

    Witness did say he read the interview and reviewed medical records of Dr. Klein

    d: dr. have you ever had a patient that was resistent to your recomendations
    w: yes
    d: what do you do in that case
    w: well that depends on whether it is outside my field or not and first rule is to realize your limitations, underlying issues outside my realm I refer them to those specialists that can help them as well
    d: if you have a patient that is somewhat resistant to something that is in your realm to your expertise
    w: patients have a right to refuse therapy
    d: what do you do
    w: i always want to make sure they are sound mind and judgement, competent to make that decision, if that is the case, i really allow autonomy, make sure they realize what can happen if they refuse therapy
    d: have you made a determination in your review of this case did you determine MJ was of sound judgement
    w: i am not able to make the that determination based on the records
     
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    d: what do you do if patient wants therapy you don't agree with
    w: if i feel that patient is wrong, i refuse
    d: if patient is insistent, would you still refuse
    w: absolutely
    d: would you recommend a diff doctor
    w: i would first try to understand why treatment is refused
     
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    ARRGGGHHH

    Good morning,
    just had to get that off my chest. going to be a long cross.
     
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    If patient wanted some treatment that was against your treatment plan what would you do. Witness, I would refuse. Make sure the patient is of sound mind.

    Flannegan is going at this in a totally different way than he has the other doctors.
     
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    d: do you know whether not Dr. M had these types of conversations with MJ
    w: nothing I've reviewed indicated anything one way or another

    defense now trying to say in the interview does indicate that
    pro objected : sustaiined

    tried again, pro objected, sustained
     
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    witness says it is your responsibility as a physician to try to understand why a patient would refuse therapy or insist on therapy that is totally inappropriate
     
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    defense really trying to pin down at what time witness would send patient to different doctor...witness has been firm that sending to diff dr based on these scenarios would not be something he'd be quick to do but would instead try to get to the bottom of why it is refused or requested inappropriate to make sure what happens is in patient's best interest
     
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    I had a glimmer of where Flannegan is going.

    If you had a resistant patient would you hang in there? He is trying to show what a good Dr. is client was to try and get MJ off the propofol, and not just walk away.
     

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