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Contaminated Evidence or New Knife Found at Crime Scene?

Discussion in 'Caylee Anthony 2 years old' started by achristmas1, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. achristmas1

    achristmas1 New Member

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    In the County Forensics Reports Part Two, there is a list of evidence provided by specific dates. See Tuesday, December 16, 2008

    » County Forensics Reports Part 2
    http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

    "At approximately 1511 hours I arrived at the Evidence Section and had a meeting with Detectives Melich and Edwards regarding the inspection of the following piece of evidence:

    Art 1, Item # H-51975 (Sealed Box)

    From the evidence mentioned above I collected the following Items:

    - Black Plastic Bag with yellow pull handles.
    - Pull-ups "with flowers design" collected from back pack "Adorable".
    - Stainless steel knife.

    The box was sealed and returned to the Evidence Intake, Mrl Terry Gorman. I returned to the forensics Unit and I secured the evidence mentioned above in my evidence locker.

    At 1730 hours in the Forensics Unit I had a meeting with Karen Cowan from the FBI and I informed her about the evidence mentioned above. After reviewing the evidence she agreed to collect the evidence at a later time for further examination.
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    This brings up a load of questions for me:

    1) No where else is a knife mentioned being found at the Caylee crime scene (only in the car when it was found months before). If it is the previous knife, car evidence should not have been included in a sealed box along with evidence from the other crime scene (possible contamination)

    2) If it is a new knife, why wasn't it mentioned along with the other findings of the T-shirt, shorts, etc., i.e., what else is missing?

    3) If this a new knife that was found at the Caylee crime scene, why did not LE seek Knife sets in their search warrants?

    4) Who else had access to the room when the tech left to deliver the rest of the items in the box back to the evidence room?

    5) The FBI lady said that the knife and other items were worth examination, but I can not find where she picked them up (could have missed it). Were they examined?


    Any one have any other thoughts on this or other similar evidence questions:confused:?
     
  2. Phumi

    Phumi Founding Member of AFKBPOFPOPL and Mulch Princess

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    I believe ALL of the evidence in the sealed box was from Casey's car--it was collected in July. The detective was probably re-looking at that evidence to see how it would compare to the new crime secene evidence in dec.
     
  3. MagicRose99

    MagicRose99 Watch out for my thorns!

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  4. achristmas1

    achristmas1 New Member

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    I believe that the "adorable" back pack was found with Caylee's remains wasn't it? If that is true, then the black plastic trash bag was found there too - in which case it would be a new knife, but I will go back and check what was found in the car and post that as well.

    Thanks
     
  5. LCoastMom

    LCoastMom JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE - STILL WAITING

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    No, in the WFTV link this morning it said a "stainless steel" knife was found in the bag, I'll try to post a link.

    Sheaffer said the public might never find out why a stainless steel knife was found with the body.
    "The knife could have been an agency of the murder, could have been used to cut the tape. A myriad of possibilities with the knife," Sheaffer said.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/18530178/detail.html
     
  6. JaneInOz

    JaneInOz Former Member

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    http://www.wftv.com/news/18530178/detail.html#-

    It was found with the body

     
  7. LancelotLink

    LancelotLink Better Days

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    I thought the same thing about the knife being a second knife. However, ishouldbeworking pointed out that the numbers for the evidence listed on page 42 are the same numbers for the evidence items taken from the car on page 2. I went back and re read and I concur with ishouldbeworking.
    I believe there was only one knife.
     
  8. LancelotLink

    LancelotLink Better Days

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  9. achristmas1

    achristmas1 New Member

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    Thanks Lancelotlink - Do you have a link for the items found in the car? I have looked everywhere but can not find a mention of the black bags with yellow handles being in the car.
     
  10. LancelotLink

    LancelotLink Better Days

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    The items listed as coming from the car are listed as H-51975:
    Page 2
    Black plastic bag containing inside:
    · Doll (Art # 3, Item # H-51975)
    · Backpack (Art # 4, Item # H-51975)
    · Childs tooth brush (Art # 5, Item # H-51975)
    · Black leather bag ( Art # 6, Item # H-51975)
    · Various papers (Art # 7, Item # H-51975)
    · Dinner knife (Art # 8, Item # H-51975)
    · Blue plastic crate (Art # 9, Item # H-51975)
    · Plastic clothes hangers (Art #10, Item # H-51975 )

    the items on page 42 have the same item number
    Art # 1, Item # H-51975 (Sealed box)

    From the evidence mentioned above I collected the following Items:
    · Black plastic bag with yellow pull handles.
    · Pull-ups “with flowers design” collected from the back pack “Adorable”
    · Stainless steel knife

    I don't think they would list evidence from the car and evidence from the remains site with the same numbers.
     
  11. LancelotLink

    LancelotLink Better Days

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    Certainly!
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf
    Page 2 and 42
     
  12. achristmas1

    achristmas1 New Member

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    Thanks again LancelotLink.

    Unfortunately, my computer will not open the document dumps so I will have to wait until tomorrow to research further. I do not know how their numbering system works so you may be right.

    Thanks again.
     
  13. Boston

    Boston New Member

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    What does the "H" stand for.......??

    HOUSE....???
     
  14. LancelotLink

    LancelotLink Better Days

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    Good Question.
     
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    LancelotLink Better Days

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    No problem. :)
     
  16. ThoughtElf

    ThoughtElf Former Member

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    Unless, the media have seen some or all of the missing pages we haven't seen yet? We're missing 69 pages.
     
  17. ThoughtElf

    ThoughtElf Former Member

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    Not thinking the H stands for house. I am thinking it is just a standard coding convention for evidence. i.e. A-00001 and they just keep jumping letters once they hit A-99999.

    Can you imagine how many different houses they collect evidence from each year?
     
  18. Marsha

    Marsha New Member

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    If I'm reading things right there are two black plastic bags.....one taken from the vehicle originally and the one the body was in???

    If so, I wonder if they match?
     
  19. kcaddict

    kcaddict New Member

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    I noticed last night when I was reviewing docs that some links had more pages than others...maybe that's where the 69 pages are??
     
  20. debs

    debs Former Member

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    A typical "Dinner Knife": [​IMG]

    A typical "stainless steel knife:
    [​IMG]

    Sometimes, perhaps wording is just idiosyncratic to the person writing: i.e., one would call a dinner knife a dinner knife and someone else would call a dinner knife by it's composition....a "stainless steel knife" or "tempered steel knife" or a "ceramic knife"......like that.

    However, because I am a coveter of cutlery, I would never confuse a dinner knife with a stainless steel one, because I have different purposes in mind for their use. A steel knife would be used as a task knife, chopping nuts, veggies, other stuff in the kitchen. A dinner knife would be just that.

    However, that being said, was the dinner knife ever actually given to LE? I thought Cindy said she'd washed it and put it away.
     

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