Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #101

Discussion in 'Coronavirus - Covid-19' started by Amonet, Jan 17, 2020.

  1. Satchie

    Satchie Well-Known Member

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    In BC, the vaccine passport system only applies to optional 'fun' stuff, like restaurants, sports, movies, banquet halls. These were the places that were closed last winter, so it makes sense that now they're only opened because people are vaccinated.

    Essential services like grocery stores, shops, etc don't require a vaccine passport. They were open before vaccines, so to restrict access now, I think would be seen as punitive to the unvaxed, plus hard to enforce and the companies don't have that incentive to implement new measures in order to open up.

    The government would like organizations to implement vaccine mandates for their employees, but they haven't openly demanded it. They've done it in the public sector, where government has power and pays the salaries (which includes health care). But they aren't going to require employers to do it.

    I think there's a fine line to walk where vaccination is encouraged, but doesn't create a backlash against the government's 'draconian' strategies. It's still a matter of seeing what happens next with the virus.
     


  2. MrX

    MrX Well-Known Member

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    Haaa - you hit it on the head: "fun" stuff. That has been the case in the States. Bars were closed or restricted because they could threaten liquor licenses. In states where restaurants are heavily licensed and regulated, they were close or restricted. The only reason Nevada is under a mask mandate is because of leverage they have over casinos.
     
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    JaneEyre Well-Known Member

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    That's not how any of this works.
     
  4. ilovewings

    ilovewings Well-Known Member

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    Before I got vaccinated my biggest fear was being unable to breathe
    and winding up on a ventilator--- all those months during the early
    days of the pandemic while all those people were dying and stories
    of people who could not catch their breath-- terrified me-- I was
    afraid of the vaccine but I am alot more afraid of Covid and consider
    the vaccine a miracle--

    Your description of your diffculty breathing was terrifying to just read about
     
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    I feel same as you:

    "I was afraid of the vaccine but I am alot more afraid of Covid and consider
    the vaccine a miracle"

    For my pneumonia, a tube in my lung and strong antibiotics cured me, then getting annual flu shots.

    My lungs went back to normal but Covid pneumonia is not like that. Covid messes with your lungs first, does scaring, and then the pneumonia comes secondary.

    I think more people would get vaccinated if they understood the lung damage Covid causes, that it doesn't simply clear up with horse medicine and an antibody cocktail, that the shortness of breath causing fatigue often outlasts the other symptoms.

    ‘You are not a horse’: Spread of misinformation leads to drug shortage for vet clinic
     
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  6. ilovewings

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    If I recall I think Chest x-rays of people with Covid are described as looking like "ground glass"- as you pointed out, people with Covid have a different kind of pneumonia. In the early days docs put a lot of Covid patients on ventilators - but physicians were surprised when many of these patients got worse: their lungs did not react to a ventilator the way a normal pneumonia patient did.
     
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    Scientists abused and threatened for discussing Covid, global survey finds

    Scientists around the world have received threats of death and sexual assault after speaking to the media about Covid-19, a new survey has revealed.

    Of 321 scientists asked by Nature magazine 15% said they had received death threats and 22% had been threatened with physical or sexual violence as a result of talking publicly about the pandemic.

    Two-thirds said they had a negative experience after appearing in the media.

    Scientists disclosed how they have been left distressed and scared and in some cases stopped sharing their views publicly after experiencing harassment and intimidation.
     
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    Updated as of this week
    Over 800 Boston employees suspended without pay for refusing vaccine mandate
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    More than 800 Boston employees were suspended without pay on Tuesday for not complying with the city’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

    The 812 people who refuse to get vaccinated has decreased from 1,400 last week and represents around 4.5% of Boston’s 18,000-employee workforce, according to NBC 10.






     
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    Vermont
    Vermont COVID Cases Up 26%; No Change in Prevention Tactics
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    The number of new COVID-19 cases in Vermont increased 26% in the last week and 8% over the last two weeks, but Gov. Phil Scott said Tuesday he didn’t believe reimposing mask mandates would help reduce the spread of the virus.

    Speaking at his regular weekly virus briefing, Scott said he continues to recommend that people wear masks during indoor activities.






    Vt. Community Cheers News That Border With Canada Will Reopen: ‘We've Missed Them'
     
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    'We've lost the war': Idaho doctor says COVID is here to stay as state adds more cases, deaths — The Seattle Times

    “Health experts have long argued that if the state’s and/or the nation’s vaccination rate did not reach a high enough level, COVID-19 would become endemic, meaning it would be regularly found and not eradicated. On Tuesday, Dr. Steven Nemerson, chief clinical officer at Saint Alphonsus Health System, told reporters at a Health and Welfare briefing that the virus is here to stay.

    Today I’m here to tell you that we’ve lost the war,” Nemerson said. “The reason it is here to stay is because we cannot vaccinate enough of the public to fully eradicate the disease. And absent being able to do that ... we now need to move into the phase of recognizing that COVID is going to be a disease to be managed for the long-term future.”
     
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    Yeah, I predicted this months ago. I'm sure I'm not alone. I think from January through around April, I was feeling kind of optimistic. The rush of people trying to get vaccinated, all the demand, so much that merely getting lucky enough to snag an appointment was a huge victory of sorts. Right around May is when I started to realize that what I had initially feared as the worst case scenario, was starting to take shape.

    So this is where we are, and Covid is here to stay for the rest of our days. Popping up now and then to spread voraciously whenever and wherever the wind blows it.

    I believe that months ago I came up with the projection of 65-70% of Americans will be fully vaccinated when all is said and done. That puts it at the low, low end of what Dr. Fauci originally said would be necessary to achieve herd immunity. With the arrival of Delta, that was raised to 85%. I'm Caucasian, 55 and 5 ft. 5, and I have a better shot at getting a contract to play Center for the L.A. Lakers than this country has of reaching a 85% vaccination rate.
     
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