Coronavirus - COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #24

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  1. MommyStephV

    MommyStephV Well-Known Member

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    MyBelle, are you from Nebraska? I’m wondering if I saw the same local press conference you did or if the local lady I saw here in Nebraska was saying 10 minutes of being near someone too. It’s encouraging to me if it really does take 10 minutes!
     
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    dotr Well-Known Member

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    rbbm
    Covid-19 is not the flu. It’s worse.
    Put simply, while the exact death rate is not yet clear, this disease kills a larger proportion of people than the flu (and it’s particularly lethal for people older than 80).

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    A comparison of flu death rates to Covid-19 deaths in China in the period leading up to the peak of the country’s outbreak. The exact fatality rate of Covid-19 is not yet known, but it appears much deadlier than the flu.
    Max Roser and Hannah Ritchie/Our World in Data
    ''It also has a higher potential to overwhelm our health care system and hurt people with other illnesses.

    At present, there is also no vaccine to combat it, nor any approved therapeutics to slow the course of its toll on the human body. (Doctors can treat cytokine storm syndrome, an immune response that may in some cases be dealing the fatal blow to those dying of Covid-19.)

    Sober-minded epidemiologists say, without exaggeration, that 20 to 60 percent of the world’s adult population could end up catching this virus.''

    ''Biologically, it behaves differently than the flu. It takes around five days for Covid-19 infection to develop symptoms. For the flu, it’s two days. That potentially gives people more time to spread the illness asymptomatically before they know they are sick.''

    ''Three months ago, this virus was not known to science. No human immune system had seen it before January, so no unexposed human has any natural immunity to it. That means it’s more contagious than the flu — about twice as contagious, perhaps more; the numbers are still being worked out.''

    'People have been trying to underplay this': Why the coronavirus is different from the flu

    ''Experts are still trying to calculate precisely what the mortality rate of the coronavirus is, but it appears to be many times higher than that of the flu.

    "If you get the flu, 99.9 percent of people are going to be just fine."

    ''While the flu follows a distinct seasonal pattern every year, no one knows yet what the coronavirus pattern will look like.''

    ''Efforts to develop a vaccine for it are underway, but nothing exists to prevent it at the moment. With the flu, a vaccine is manufactured each year to keep up with the constantly mutating genes of the flu strains. Those who catch the flu have some immunity against catching the same strain again — something that is not yet possible with the coronavirus.''
     
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  3. LaborDayRN

    LaborDayRN Stay Home, Save Lives

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    IMO this is exactly right. We are slowing the spread by making difficult decisions to shut certain things down that would increase community spread.
     
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    PingTheRouter Ghetto Superstar

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    Schools are not closing in Australia will be looked at again friday PM says

    he says we are following the UK example and keeping schools open to keep critical workers on the job like nurses and police and doctors so they don't have to be at home looking after their kids

    LIVE: Coronavirus cases surge in Australia
     
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    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    Local officials alarmed by dearth of ventilators, hospital beds
    rbbm.
    "It's about our supply of ventilators, our supply of beds, and of course we have to worry about our health care workers and the general stress on our health care system," said Dr. Amy Acton, the head of the Ohio Department of Health. "If we stay below a certain threshold, we can try not to overwhelm our health care system. So we need to take aggressive measures now."


    Ventilators, which provide mechanical breathing assistance and can make the difference between life and death for those patients who need them, represent the clearest limitation on the health system’s capacity to handle the outbreak. U.S. hospitals have a total of 160,000 ventilators — 62,000 full-featured ventilators, and 98,000 more basic ones that can be used in an emergency, according to a 2020 study by Johns Hopkins University.

    And it’s not just the machines. The respiratory therapists who treat these critically ill patients are also in short supply, several doctors and hospital leaders point out''.

    '' Based on early data from China, a little more than 2 percent of coronavirus patients require ventilators.''

    ''Changing behavior is essential — and some preliminary research shows it could help at least slow down the spread of the virus, so that not so many people get sick all at once and flock to hospitals.''
     
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  7. MyBelle

    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    BBM. Not so. Some of the patients were there recovering from surgical procedures such as knee replacements. The responding paramedics were alarmed quarantine protocol wasn't being followed by the nursing staff. Not a single mention of a ventilator in this news story. CPAP machines are not ventilators and this nation isn't Italy. 34 First responders exposed unnecessarily not to mention the victims this nursing home harmed via unprofessional nursing practices.

    The ominous days leading up to the coronavirus outbreak in the Seattle area

    Evan Hurley, a 9-year veteran with Kirkland Fire and a union trustee, said a firefighter relayed this story: On Friday, February 28, the firefighter arrived at Life Care, walked in, and saw a charge nurse in just her scrubs. No mask, no protective gown.

    “Hey, you guys are supposed to be in self-quarantine,” the firefighter said.

    “No, we’re not,” the nurse replied.



    “Well, our chain of command talked to your management, and they say something different.”


    The nurse insisted; she hadn’t heard anything, she said.


    The firefighter looked down the hall and saw two caregivers in scrubs -- no mask or gown.


    “What the hell?” the firefighter thought. “Who is not telling you that you have two suspected coronavirus cases?”

    Later the nurse and firefighters would learn that it was more than just two suspected cases: Two people from Life Care had died the week before from coronavirus. Eight more who had spent time at Life Care would die in the following week.

    At 10 that night, the firefighters heard from their captain.

    “You’re shut down,” the captain said. The first coronavirus death had been reported, and the firefighters had been exposed, as had many from across the department.

    In total, 31 firefighters and 3 police officers would ultimately be quarantined or isolated. As of this writing, 18 are showing symptoms.


     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    That is beautiful.
     
  9. MyBelle

    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    What I learned after my dad developed ARDS after a car accident is that very few nursing homes care for patients on ventilators. Very few, because of the need and expense for those respiratory techs who run the machines.

    JMO
     
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  10. jjenny

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    They were definitely taking some of the residents to hospitals.
    "Ambulances have arrived each day at Life Care, with emergency workers wheeling away the sick on a stretcher. In some instances, a white sheet is held up to shield the patient from cameras. Of the 27 total COVID-19 cases to emerge statewide as of Tuesday evening, 14 have been linked to Life Care, according to officials. Some 50 people among the facility’s 100-plus residents and 180 staff were being monitored for signs of the illness, officials said over the weekend."
    First days at the heart of an outbreak: Life Care nursing home becomes national epicenter of coronavirus
     
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    Our restaurant, busy tonight and last night.
    We are a bit of a social hub of doctors, lawyers and elders.
    They are not buying the media's, The end of the world as we know it pitch".
    Some told us that they purposely came to dinner at our place to support us.
    My husband and myself, do not believe, that this virus is the end of the world as we know it either.
    As to why, entire countries have shut down EVERYTHING.
    I have no answers.
    The deaths are very low, throughout the world.
    Yes, there is PANIC.
    But, numbers do Not lie.
    You all know that there is media that makes money on your every click.
    I wish that the media cared more about the human race, instead of money.
    Just consider this. Please.
    Stop the panic.
    We'll be fine.
     
  12. MyBelle

    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I am in Nebraska. It was Dr. Adi Pour speaking and she knows what she's talking about. I think this crisis has turned a corner at least in Nebraska, a less populated state.

    JMO
     
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    Yes, I am in Nebraska. It was Dr. Adi Pour speaking at a news conference and she knows what she's talking about. I think this crisis has turned a corner at least in Nebraska, a less populated state.

    JMO
     
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    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you will be fine. Your community will support you.

    JMO
     
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    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    How could you possibly know that?
     
  20. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    These are my concerns as well. I walked my dog around the main streets. I saw a lot of people in the restaurants. The Hispanic joints were crowded. Others were just slightly less than full. Stores were crowded. And some jerk raced through the parking lot at high speed at me as I crossed from the median to the Petco entrance. I had to jump out of the way. I was waiting for family inside and trying to get away from someone walking in my direction. This guy in a truck saw me and sped up super fast.

    I think some unstable people can be sent over the edge by this.
     
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