Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #30

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  1. drama_farmer

    drama_farmer Central Kentucky (Bluegrass)

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    This article is from the year 2009, and talks about what might happen if there are not a sufficient number of ventilators available in a crisis. This was back when the "swine flu" was the topic of the day, and they were worried about the moral/ethical conundrum of rationing vents.

    Virulent Swine Flu May Trigger Rationing Of Ventilators


    (snipped and bbm)
    "If swine flu (this is 2009 they are discussing) takes a turn toward the truly terrible, hospitals will be swamped and there won't be enough ventilators to help the very sick breathe."

    Right now, a doomsday scenario doesn't seem likely. The second wave of H1N1 looks a lot like the usual seasonal flu and not a reprise of the Spanish Flu, the 1918 pandemic that killed 50 million or more.

    Still, public health officials are preparing for the worst and that means coming up with plans for who would get a ventilator and who wouldn't. Rationing of ventilators could pit the families of people with serious non-flu illnesses against those of acutely ill flu patients.

    The foundation for a lot of the thinking about ventilator rationing is the New York Protocol, drafted by New York public health officials in 2007 before swine flu was even on the map.

    (from 2009)Under the most serious flu scenario they contemplated, more than three-quarters of a million New Yorkers would be hospitalized and 153,000 would die. During the peak of the pandemic ventilator needs would outstrip the supply by more than 15,000."

    Some think a less-than-worst-care scenario could overwhelm ventilator and ICU capacity in the US. Last month, an analysis published online by PLoS Currents: Influenza figured if swine flu infects 46 million Americans and puts 2.7 million in the hospital, more than 330,000 folks might require ventilators, exceeding current capacity by more than 23 percent."
     
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  2. MJPeony

    MJPeony SF Bay Area

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    followup to my reply- They finally updated their numbers a few minutes ago, 189 as of last night. And their Twitter says “We apologize for not tweeting the case numbers update yesterday”

    HA! Wouldn’t it be nice to think ol’ MJPeony’s call this morning was what made them get on it :)
     
  3. Henry2326

    Henry2326 Well-Known Member

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    SOUTH CAROLINA....geez, anytime would help

    In response to closing SC beaches and tourist areas, McMaster said "Nothing is off the table."

    ABC News 4 on Twitter
     
  4. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    MAR 19, 2020
    COVID-19 | How the U.S. Military Is Fighting the Coronavirus
    “The outbreak’s spread has resulted in infections and quarantines even as the services mobilize to help battle the virus.

    • The U.S. Military is transferring critical medical supplies to the Department of Health and Human Services.
    • The services are also experiencing their own cases of COVID-19, with 49 military personnel worldwide infected with the disease.
    • At the same time, the Pentagon is preparing to aid civilian authorities, in everything from construction programs to hospital ships.”

    [...]

    “The U.S. Military is trying to operate business as usual as much as possible during the coronavirus pandemic, but it’s not proving easy. From Virginia to Australia, the COVID-19 virus is causing friction to ongoing operations, slowing them down or even canceling them altogether. In the meantime soldiers, sailors, pilots, and Marines continue to fall victim to the virus, even as the armed services try to train and prepare for the defense of the nation.”

    -more at link
     
  5. pocketaccent

    pocketaccent Well-Known Member

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    Haha, I successfully cut a roll in half just now, thanks to that cute man. To use only in the kitchen though. Those short little rolls sitting on my kitchen counter are so cute. They will help cut down on my usage of paper towels and will be a new staple in my kitchen.
     
  6. MyBelle

    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    A very good idea. I think there will be widespread communication outages because of sheer volume of worldwide users.

    JMO
     
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    LadyL Well-Known Member

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  9. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    Yes, and at the rate we're going, our First Wave is going to be a doozie (and peak in the next couple of weeks).

    There are a lot of us. We have no national coordination (Italy managed to supply some nationwide parameters) and some states who still think it's not that big of a deal. <modsnip>

    It's okay, though. The facts are the same: most people will survive and many will by asymptomatic. People aged 80 and over are at high risk, people 60-70 are at higher risk than they would be with other current viruses.

    Kids will hopefully continue to be safer than they are from flu.

    Flu figures show 125 child deaths, record-high hospitalizations in young children

    Hopefully, the various measures taken for CoVId19 will also slow the flu.

    Do we really need to be out and about ALL THE TIME?
     
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  10. Tony1902

    Tony1902 Hey na na...lagunas mentales

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    Is that USAMRID helping sorry dragging of your post
     
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    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    Word.

    It’s very important to keep this in mind as the numbers come out this week, per Dr. B., as related to “curve”.
     
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    BayouBelle_LA Well-Known Member

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    IMO this was stressed at the press conference this afternoon with the governors in regard to the chain of command - locally executed, state managed and federally supported. The individual communities know best as to what they need and they contact their state leaders. The state leaders contact FEMA for support that the individual states are unable to supply. AFAIK it’s always been this way with disaster relief.
     
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  13. SkylarSid

    SkylarSid East Coast

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    Speaking of masks, the Virginia based company Cupron who has been making antimicrobial copper-based products for health care settings, is now making reusable masks. Hopefully, the can crank up their production.
    About Cupron, Inc. | Company History
    About Cupron, Inc. | Company History
     
  14. Henry2326

    Henry2326 Well-Known Member

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    NEW YORK

    NYS is now testing at rate that is VASTLY HIGHER than #SouthKorea, on a per-capita basis. Kudos to NYS & NYC leadership for taking this seriously. The new #Covid19 #Coronavirus cases will look worse, but the public's health will be better. (((Howard Forman))) on Twitter
     
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    Gardenista Well-Known Member

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    PBSO - Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office
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    Residents beware!

    There are reports of people dressing in white lab coats, wearing masks and gloves knocking on doors stating that they are from the Department of Health or the CDC and want to test residents for the #Coronavirus.

    BE ADVISED Representatives from the CDC or Department of Health will not show up at your residence unannounced!

    If anyone comes at your residence unannounced wearing a white lab coat, mask, and gloves and says they are a representative of the CDC or Department of Health without notifying you first, please call PBSO at 561-688-3400 or your nearest law enforcement agency.
     
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    KALI Well-Known Member

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    Yes! Do not flush them. Keep a lined trash can in bathroom. Dispose there. I have a 42 year old sailboat. We never flush tonite paper. Has to go in a plastic bag, then out to trash.


     
  17. Tony1902

    Tony1902 Hey na na...lagunas mentales

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    Jeez Louise in coastal south SMALL town— no bread after 0800. Showing a friend how to make it herself?! No yeast or flour. I just ordered & paid for a bakery for bread. Lord of the Flies coming next? I can’t sleep food tastes like styrofoam.
     
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  18. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    Something like 70% of those respiratory techs are in California (where many colleges have training programs, it's actually not that common to have the training programs).

    In places without the techs, R.N.s do the work as a routine. There's training at our local hospitals right now (California).
     
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  19. escape2sc

    escape2sc Lowcountry of South Carolina

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    Regarding the increase in numbers in relation to the curve...Don't Italy's numbers also reflect increased testing ? Regardless of curve the confirmed numbers are increasing rapidly which means the numbers waiting for results is increasing and the number of newly infected is increasing.
     
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    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    Good example of how some late-to-the-game states think it's just their local problem.

    ::Sigh::
     
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