Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #31

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I have become a food hoarder. I don't throw away the leftovers as I used to do...even after a few days. I have some weird food paranoias that I'm having to get over real fast. I only eat 2 breakfast biscuits instead of the pack of 4. I have already lost 2 pounds more after the 8 I lost from having the flu in January.

I don't call that hoarding. The recognition that food could be scarce in the future is a real fear right now. My grandparents lived through the Great Depression. They would never throw out any food even in their old age. If they had 2 bites of something left on their plates they would put it away in the fridge for later. Leftovers were always repurposed into a stew or hash of some sort. This habit came from living through times when they went hungry. My grandfather used to tell me stories about only getting one meal a day. His mother would make a pot of stew and all the kids (13 of them) got a piece of bread to dip in the pot of stew and whatever came up on their bread was what they ate that day. He said if you got a piece of meat you were lucky. Meat was hard to come by in the depression. And my grandfather grew up on a farm where they raised pigs and cows and chickens for eggs but the dust bowl destroyed crops so they couldn't feed most of their animals. They had to sell them to survive. As long as we have normal weather conditions this year I expect the food supply to be secure. The farmers will find a way to get their crops in and to market. The food manufacturers are essential businesses and are not shutting down. And many of us can start growing vegetables in our yards and balconies if we are concerned. I'm planning a large garden this year and dusting off my canning supplies. MOO.
 
Here is a communication from a Harvard professor of Physical Medicine (a specialist in various rehab therapies such as respiratory therapy). She says she bases this on all the information they are compiling at Harvard:

From Harvard Med School Professor Dr. Julie Silver —“As a physician at Harvard Medical School, I have amazing access to the best information and resources for #Covid19. I know people are getting a lot of information, and not all of it is accurate. Re the info below--note that "coronavirus" is used generically to mean the specific strain Covid 19. I will apologize in advance for not responding to comments as work is very hectic right now:
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> So much confusion, misinformation and denial is bouncing around on social media about the coronavirus that I thought I would try to explain, in plain language, why the experts see this as such an emergency.
>
> You will see the claim online that this virus is a lot like the viruses that cause colds, and that if you get it, it will probably just seem like a bad cold and you are very unlikely to die. Depending on who you are, these statements are probably true. But they are incomplete, and the missing information is the key to understanding the problem.
>
> This is a coronavirus that is new to the human population, jumping into people late last year from some kind of animal, probably at a wildlife market in Wuhan, China. It is related to the viruses that cause colds, and acts a lot like them in many ways. It is very easy to transmit through the respiratory droplets that all of us give off. But nobody has ever been exposed to this before, which means nobody has any immunity to it.
>
> The virus is now moving explosively through the human population. While most people will recover, about 20 percent of the people who catch it will wind up with a serious disease. They will get pneumonia that causes shortness of breath, and they may need hospitalization.
>
> Some of those people will get so sick that they cannot be saved and will die of the pneumonia. The overall death rate for people who develop symptoms seems to be 2 or 3 percent. Once we have enough testing to find out how many people caught the virus but did not develop symptoms, that might come down to about 1 percent, optimistically.
>
> This is a large number. It is at least 10 times higher than the mortality rate for the seasonal flu, for instance, which in some years kills 60,000 or 70,000 Americans. So just on that math, we could be looking at 600,000 or 700,000 dead in the United States. But it gets worse.
>
> Older people with existing health problems are much more vulnerable, on average. The mortality rate of coronavirus among people over age 80 may be 15 or 20 percent. It appears to have 7 or 8 percent mortality for people aged 70 to 79. Here is the terrible part: If you are a healthy younger person, you can catch the virus and, without developing serious symptoms yourself, you can pass it along to older people. In other words, as the virus spreads, it is going to be very easy to go out and catch it, give it to your grandmother and kill her, even though you will not die yourself. You can catch it by touching a door knob or an elevator button.
>
> Scientists measure the spread of an epidemic by a number called R0, or “R naught.” That number is calculated this way: for every person who develops the illness, how many other people do they give it to before they are cured (or dead) and no longer infectious? The R0 for coronavirus, in the absence of a control strategy, appears to be a number close to 3 – maybe a bit higher or lower, but in that ballpark. This is an extremely frightening number for such a deadly disease.
>
> Suppose you catch the virus. You will give it to 3 other people, and they will each give it to three others, and so forth. Here is how the math works, where you, the “index case,” are the first line:
> 1
> 3
> 9
> 27
> 81
> 243
> 729
> 2,187
> 6,561
> 19,683
> 59,046
> 177,147
> 531,441
> 1,594,323
> 4,782,969
> 14,348,907
>
> So, in just 15 steps of transmission, the virus has gone from just one index case to 14.3 million other people. Those 15 steps might take only a few weeks. The index person may be young and healthy, but many of those 14 million people will be old and sick, and they will likely die because they got a virus that started in one person's throat.
>
> The United States is not at this point yet, with millions infected, as best we can tell. We don’t really know, because our government has failed us. We are many, many weeks behind other countries in rolling out widespread testing, so we don’t really have a clue how far the thing has spread. We do know that cases are starting to pop up all over the place, with many of the people having no known exposure to travelers from China, so that means this virus has escaped into our communities.
>
> We do not have approved treatments, yet. We do not have a vaccine. The only tool we really have now is to try to slow down the chain of transmission.
>
> This can be done. In other words, R0 is not fixed – it can be lowered by control measures. If we can get the number below 1, the epidemic will die out. This is the point of the quarantines and the contact-tracing that you are hearing so much about in the news. But the virus is exploding so fast that we will not have the labor available to trace contacts for much longer, so we have to shift strategies. This has already begun, but we are not doing it fast enough.
>
> It is now likely that the majority of Americans will get this virus. But slowing it down is still crucial. Why? Because the healthcare system has limited resources. We only have about a million hospital beds in America. We have well under a million ventilators. If millions of Americans get sick enough to need treatment, we will have a calamity on our hands. What will happen is a form of battlefield triage, where the doctors focus on trying to treat the young and allow the older people to die.
>
> This is not theoretical. It is already happening in Italy, where people over 65 are being left alone on hospital gurneys to suffocate to death from pneumonia. They basically drown in their own sputum. There is simply not enough medical capacity to take care of them. The United States appears to be about two weeks behind Italy on the epidemic growth curve.
>
> What do we need to do now? We need to cancel all large gatherings – all of them. You have probably seen that the N.B.A. has postponed the rest of its season. Other sporting events, concerts, plays and everything else involving large audiences in a small space – all of it needs to be canceled. Even if these events take place, do not go to them. No lectures, no plays, no movies, no cruises – nothing.
>
> Stay at home as much as possible.Stay out of restaurants. I would cancel any travel that is not absolutely essential. Work from home if you possibly can. You may have to go buy groceries and medicine, of course, but make the trips quick and purposeful. Wash your hands assiduously after you have been in public places, for a full 20 seconds, soaping up thoroughly and being sure to get between the fingers. Sunlight and alcohol will kill the virus.
>
> And please stop passing around statements on social media claiming that the situation is not serious or is being exaggerated. This is a national crisis, and conveying misinformation to your friends and family may put their lives in danger”
>
> Sent from my iPhone
Thank you....I think that confirms everything we know here on this site....
 
"This is 10x perhaps more deadly in a 45-year-old than the flu," says @ScottGottliebMD on new CDC data on how #coronavirus is impacting different age groups. Squawk Box on Twitter

Squawk Box on Twitter

Cannot be said often enough.

This is not just the flu. And its onset is SO fast. You can see in the Italian video that some very sick people have made it to the hospital only to be put in chairs with a mask to prevent then coughing all over others. They are still exuding virus (and medical personnel are still getting it).

So if people are thinking they'll just run to the hospital when they first feel symptoms, they'll be turned away. Not tested. If the symptoms include a fever, they may get to sit in a chair among other sick people, not knowing who has what.

Those are the realities of most hospitals in America on an ordinary day. This is not ordinary at all.
 
So far today has been a good day. I refused to listen to the Task Force pep rally/presser. Score one for sanity. I will read the gist later. We called our favorite little local restaurant and ordered two yummy chicken sandwiches for lunch to support them...delivered for free on time. We added four gigantic marionberry turnovers to our order for later. For those not familiar with our “made-in-Oregon” blackberry, let me tempt you...

“The berry has a somewhat tart flavor, fairly earthy with traces of sweetness. It is larger, sweeter and juicier than the 'Evergreen' blackberry. The relative complexity of its flavor has led to a marketing label as the "Cabernet of Blackberries".[1] The more powerful flavor of the marionberry has led to it dominating current blackberry production.”

Marionberry - Wikipedia

It’s a beautiful sunny day in Southern Oregon, so I sat on our deck and soaked up some vitamin D, while my husband is out doing a couple of good deeds for friends older than we are, picking up an Rx and allergy pills, but no food. We’re fine.

We are concerned about family and friends in San Diego and other parts of CA, of course, but all we can do is keep in touch and be supportive. I will not be surprised if the Oregon governor shuts things down soon while we are still under 100 cases and at “only” 3 deaths. Why wait until it gets worse?

Wishing you all well, wherever you are. Stay healthy and safe. :)
 
Here is a communication from a Harvard professor of Physical Medicine (a specialist in various rehab therapies such as respiratory therapy). She says she bases this on all the information they are compiling at Harvard:

From Harvard Med School Professor Dr. Julie Silver —“As a physician at Harvard Medical School, I have amazing access to the best information and resources for #Covid19. I know people are getting a lot of information, and not all of it is accurate. Re the info below--note that "coronavirus" is used generically to mean the specific strain Covid 19. I will apologize in advance for not responding to comments as work is very hectic right now:
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> So much confusion, misinformation and denial is bouncing around on social media about the coronavirus that I thought I would try to explain, in plain language, why the experts see this as such an emergency.
>
> You will see the claim online that this virus is a lot like the viruses that cause colds, and that if you get it, it will probably just seem like a bad cold and you are very unlikely to die. Depending on who you are, these statements are probably true. But they are incomplete, and the missing information is the key to understanding the problem.
>
> This is a coronavirus that is new to the human population, jumping into people late last year from some kind of animal, probably at a wildlife market in Wuhan, China. It is related to the viruses that cause colds, and acts a lot like them in many ways. It is very easy to transmit through the respiratory droplets that all of us give off. But nobody has ever been exposed to this before, which means nobody has any immunity to it.
>
> The virus is now moving explosively through the human population. While most people will recover, about 20 percent of the people who catch it will wind up with a serious disease. They will get pneumonia that causes shortness of breath, and they may need hospitalization.
>
> Some of those people will get so sick that they cannot be saved and will die of the pneumonia. The overall death rate for people who develop symptoms seems to be 2 or 3 percent. Once we have enough testing to find out how many people caught the virus but did not develop symptoms, that might come down to about 1 percent, optimistically.
>
> This is a large number. It is at least 10 times higher than the mortality rate for the seasonal flu, for instance, which in some years kills 60,000 or 70,000 Americans. So just on that math, we could be looking at 600,000 or 700,000 dead in the United States. But it gets worse.
>
> Older people with existing health problems are much more vulnerable, on average. The mortality rate of coronavirus among people over age 80 may be 15 or 20 percent. It appears to have 7 or 8 percent mortality for people aged 70 to 79. Here is the terrible part: If you are a healthy younger person, you can catch the virus and, without developing serious symptoms yourself, you can pass it along to older people. In other words, as the virus spreads, it is going to be very easy to go out and catch it, give it to your grandmother and kill her, even though you will not die yourself. You can catch it by touching a door knob or an elevator button.
>
> Scientists measure the spread of an epidemic by a number called R0, or “R naught.” That number is calculated this way: for every person who develops the illness, how many other people do they give it to before they are cured (or dead) and no longer infectious? The R0 for coronavirus, in the absence of a control strategy, appears to be a number close to 3 – maybe a bit higher or lower, but in that ballpark. This is an extremely frightening number for such a deadly disease.
>
> Suppose you catch the virus. You will give it to 3 other people, and they will each give it to three others, and so forth. Here is how the math works, where you, the “index case,” are the first line:
> 1
> 3
> 9
> 27
> 81
> 243
> 729
> 2,187
> 6,561
> 19,683
> 59,046
> 177,147
> 531,441
> 1,594,323
> 4,782,969
> 14,348,907
>
> So, in just 15 steps of transmission, the virus has gone from just one index case to 14.3 million other people. Those 15 steps might take only a few weeks. The index person may be young and healthy, but many of those 14 million people will be old and sick, and they will likely die because they got a virus that started in one person's throat.
>
> The United States is not at this point yet, with millions infected, as best we can tell. We don’t really know, because our government has failed us. We are many, many weeks behind other countries in rolling out widespread testing, so we don’t really have a clue how far the thing has spread. We do know that cases are starting to pop up all over the place, with many of the people having no known exposure to travelers from China, so that means this virus has escaped into our communities.
>
> We do not have approved treatments, yet. We do not have a vaccine. The only tool we really have now is to try to slow down the chain of transmission.
>
> This can be done. In other words, R0 is not fixed – it can be lowered by control measures. If we can get the number below 1, the epidemic will die out. This is the point of the quarantines and the contact-tracing that you are hearing so much about in the news. But the virus is exploding so fast that we will not have the labor available to trace contacts for much longer, so we have to shift strategies. This has already begun, but we are not doing it fast enough.
>
> It is now likely that the majority of Americans will get this virus. But slowing it down is still crucial. Why? Because the healthcare system has limited resources. We only have about a million hospital beds in America. We have well under a million ventilators. If millions of Americans get sick enough to need treatment, we will have a calamity on our hands. What will happen is a form of battlefield triage, where the doctors focus on trying to treat the young and allow the older people to die.
>
> This is not theoretical. It is already happening in Italy, where people over 65 are being left alone on hospital gurneys to suffocate to death from pneumonia. They basically drown in their own sputum. There is simply not enough medical capacity to take care of them. The United States appears to be about two weeks behind Italy on the epidemic growth curve.
>
> What do we need to do now? We need to cancel all large gatherings – all of them. You have probably seen that the N.B.A. has postponed the rest of its season. Other sporting events, concerts, plays and everything else involving large audiences in a small space – all of it needs to be canceled. Even if these events take place, do not go to them. No lectures, no plays, no movies, no cruises – nothing.
>
> Stay at home as much as possible.Stay out of restaurants. I would cancel any travel that is not absolutely essential. Work from home if you possibly can. You may have to go buy groceries and medicine, of course, but make the trips quick and purposeful. Wash your hands assiduously after you have been in public places, for a full 20 seconds, soaping up thoroughly and being sure to get between the fingers. Sunlight and alcohol will kill the virus.
>
> And please stop passing around statements on social media claiming that the situation is not serious or is being exaggerated. This is a national crisis, and conveying misinformation to your friends and family may put their lives in danger”
>
> Sent from my iPhone
Can we please put this on the first page.....please?
 
This is kind of dumb, but I keep thinking I'd rather go ahead and get it now instead of later.

Yeah, I keep pondering that. I think I probably missed the window, though. While there are still lots of beds where I live (and very few cases), I have no reliable way of getting it! I'd prefer to have to seek treatment today and not a week from now (even tomorrow may be a very different day). There was only 1 case in my town yesterday (a doctor), and now there are 2. (Talking serious diagnosed cases only). Tomorrow there will likely be 4 and by Sunday, 8. You get the picture.

So in order to leave beds for others, of course I'm completely self-quarantined. And have been for about 2 weeks (work made me go in on one day, but got me a big airy classroom and hardly any students showed up - that is now 9 days ago).

If anyone is wondering why some of this are wondering this, it's because the older I get, the worse it will be for me. I'm okay with dying of it when I'm over 80. I doubt I will be able to avoid it that long. :confused:
 
Impact of city and residential unit lockdowns on prevention and control of COVID-19
Peng Shao

Results: The implementation of measures to lock down cities led to higher mortality rates in these cities, due to reduced mobility. Moreover, implementing city lockdown along with addition of hospital beds led to improved cure and reduced mortality rates. Stringent implementation and early lockdown of residential units effectively controlled the spread of the epidemic, and reduced the number of hospital bed requirements. Collectively, measures to lock down cities and residential units should be taken to prevent the spread of COVID-19. In addition, medical resources should be increased in cities under lockdown. Implementation of these measures would reduce the spread of the virus to other cities and allow appropriate treatment of patients in cities under lockdown.

Impact of city and residential unit lockdowns on prevention and control of COVID-19
 
Thank you for all you do Henry!
This is important to me and many others!
jmo
WHERE IS THE PERSON ON HERE ARGUING WITH ME ON THIS TOPIC....stay with the facts and research....

Hot off the Press: Study shows that up to 50% of #COVID19 patients may present with GI symptoms including #anorexia and #diarrhea. And these patients had a worse clinical course. Let’s make sure our colleagues and the @CDCgov recognize this new information #NotJustCough
Mark B. Pochapin, MD on Twitter

Study from The American Journal of #Gastroenterology Reveals Diarrhea is Prominent Symptom of #COVID19
Wuhan data show that up to half of patients present w/ a digestive symptom as chief complaint
Read AJG: https://t.co/m1VXFvXgnv
ACG Statement https://t.co/XZn2T0Sl4R
#AmJGastro ACG on Twitter
ACG on Twitter
 
ITALY

Soldiers are being drafted in to help enforce the lockdown in Italy after the total number of deaths from Covid-19 in the European nation surpassed the toll in China, previously the deadliest center of the coronavirus outbreak. Italy coronavirus: Military called to enforce lockdown as 627 people die in 24 hours - CNN

Italy is “facing the most difficult moment” that history has ever put before it, the country’s Health Minister said Friday Health minister: Italy is "facing the most difficult moment that history has ever put before us"

:eek: This is terrifying. I keep thinking, what if China has lied to the entire world about the true number of the dead there? What if the death rate is much higher and they mostly only reported the deaths of the "old people" in order to "save face"? Western journalists were kicked out of China and they continue to be locked down last I read. How would the world know if their cities are literal ghost towns now? Horrifying. May God be with us all. MOO.
 
YEA, I WATCHED THIS CRAZINESS...LUCKY WE HAVE TONY...

Dr. Anthony Fauci throws cold water on Pres. Trump's declaration that malaria drug chloroquine is a "game changer." Fauci throws cold water on Trump's declaration that malaria drug chloroquine is a 'game changer'

ABC News on Twitter

All public officials in all countries should refrain from talking about the medical aspects of this crisis when they do not have any medical knowledge or expertise. They need to leave talking about the medical aspects of the crisis to the medical experts. It is absolutely critical they do not give false or misleading information to the general public.
 
Yesssss!!! We just got her at 1:30 today! This is Athena. She is 5 years old. She had an unexpected surgery this morning to be spayed because another appointment was cancelled. So she is on the struggle bus for sure. Walks like she’s drunk. Pain meds and antibiotics for a bit.

Quiet, shy, housebroken and looked terribly guilty for throwing up on the rug. I told her it was ok. She loves the backyard and watches the planes go overhead. The squirrels are sitting in the oak tree squawking like crazy. She keeps looking up at them.

She appears to have been neglected and may have had puppies in the last year. Her skin is in rough shape. She came from a couple counties away. I suspect she’s had a rough time of it recently. She will blossom here I’m sure.
Ah, she's adorable. We fostered a puppy named Lucy. She had been abused and she clung to my son's shoulder as he carried her to our car. She and the squirrels played together for the rest of her nearly 17 years. Enjoy!
 
Thank you Henry!
jmo


HEALTHMAP TO WATCH FOR INCREASES.....CAN SEARCH FOR YOUR AREA

The map shows two key data points: (1) the illness levels we’re currently observing, and (2) the degree to which those levels are higher than the typical levels we expect to see at this point in the flu season. (Details on how we calculate this are available in our technical approach document.) We believe this latter data point — which we’re calling “atypical illness”, may in some cases be connected to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Please note: We are not stating that this data represents COVID-19 activity. However, we would expect to pick up higher-than-anticipated levels of flu-like symptoms in our data in areas where the pandemic is affecting large numbers of people. Taken together with other data points, we believe this data may be a helpful early indicator of where and how quickly the virus is spreading.

US Health Weather Map by Kinsa
 
Spreading among my soap making international friends.

Thank you and great idea! I'm adding "learn how to make soap" to my list of skills I want to acquire now. I already know how to make my own laundry soap, but not how to make the bar type of soap which I need to make laundry soap. :cool:
 
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