Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #44

Discussion in 'Coronavirus - Covid-19' started by Amonet, Jan 17, 2020.

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  1. Sunny123

    Sunny123 Well-Known Member

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    If you call the cable company, and explain your issues, they may be able to guide you through it. I had internet issues a week ago, and didn't want anyone in my home either. I called Spectrum after trying to reset modem, and they sent a guy out whom left the new modem in our garage. They said they would contact me when all of this was over, to pick up the old one. The problem continued, and they came back and gave us new cables, and a new splitter. The issue was resolved, and I was so happy they didn't want to come in either. MOO
     


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    margarita25 “Science, Solutions and Solidarity” - Dr. Tedros

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    There are videos from the early days of people wearing motorcycle helmets in Asia. I posted about it in January. It’s in the early files.
     
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    margarita25 “Science, Solutions and Solidarity” - Dr. Tedros

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    Iirc @Oregonmama was the first to go into isolation in this thread.

    How is your freezer stash holding up?
     
  4. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    If it's the Johns Hopkins page, it just counts ventilators (now fewer in Oregon) vs. projected cases based on typical algorithms for a region of that size and population density.

    It's been very accurate. I think it has everything to do with the actual cases diagnosed in the preceding 2 week period combined with admission and mortality rates, in an algorithm that epidemiologists use. The shaded area represents the statistical variation. Most people wouldn't bet a lot on the more optimistic scenarios, if they're in medicine.

    They like to be prepared.
     
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    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    Thank you for this.
     
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    Curious Me Long-Time Member from back in the day

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    pocketaccent's quote said, "On day seven of their investigation, the virus was still present on the outward facing side of the mask."


    :eek: That is shocking. Throwing away the surgical mask I saved. I was trying to be ecology-minded, but forget that.

    Many of the big food stores in So. California, since we banned light weight plastic bags, now give us these super strong, indestructible, plastic, reusable bags. I was washing them to reuse...being ecology-minded. I feel I'm drowning in plastic, and worry about the oceans. Well, now, with the virus, the Grocery Outlet nearby no longer allows you to bring in any reusable bag, but sells large paper bags for 10 cents. Truthfully, I wish all the stores would just go to paper bags then, instead of giving me indestructible plastic I can't :( even reuse anymore.
     
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    KALI Well-Known Member

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    I feel helpless. So, maybe we need to throw all of our used masks in an oven heated to 150 f ?
    Asap?

     
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    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

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    The referenced article is dated 23rd March, so that is old info .... New Zealand enters near-total lockdown



    NZ now has 1,160 cases of coronavirus ... with one death attributed to the virus (a woman with pre-existing conditions).

    BBM
    "Cases of coronavirus have begun to stabilise and decline in New Zealand, with experts saying the country may be the only western nation with a chance of totally eradicating the disease."

    New Zealand health minister demoted after beach visit broke lockdown rules
     
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    margarita25 “Science, Solutions and Solidarity” - Dr. Tedros

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    Polis extends Colorado stay-at-home order to April 26

    “"The reason for the April 26 date is very simple: because the data and the science tells us that staying at home, it is our best chance, our only chance, to avoid a catastrophic loss of life -- the
    deaths of thousands of our friends, our neighbors, our family member," Polis said in a televised address.”
     
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    margarita25 “Science, Solutions and Solidarity” - Dr. Tedros

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    Wow...
     
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    Curious Me Long-Time Member from back in the day

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    It won't let me see the article. I really want to read it. Can you copy some of it for me please?

    You're right in what you say. Trying to fill out an Advance Health Care Directive, and the doctors have been very blunt that life-saving measures should be an informed choice of the patient while they can still make the choice. It's hard to say no ventilator, no CPR,... just let me go.
     
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    tysm!
    yeah no rubbing alcohol but you're right I haven't checked the variety stores
    we just have hand sanitizer in the car and I do already use cetaphil
    I'll research further re: vitamin C
     
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    Just "Google" ventilator therapy, after ventilator, recovery from ventilator. It is something that should be an option for last resort. But, it may not be the optimal choice for everyone.

    Be informed, and make sure that you are the one who makes decisions about your care, now. Not being extremist, but, do you have a living will made out? That specifies exactly how much care you want if you are not able to articulate your wishes?

    My husband and I had this conversation together years ago. And printed out our living will. It is hanging on the side of our fridge.
    Free Advance Directive Forms by State from AARP
     
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  17. Curious Me

    Curious Me Long-Time Member from back in the day

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    Using paper surgical, but I like those cloth colorful patterned masks. I'd like some for cold & flu season, but now this stubborn devil virus requires much more sterilization. I imagine you'd have to throw the cloth masks in a bleach laundry solution to reuse? Could I still have the colorful patterned masks then?
     
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    I think you can put them in boiling water and boil them (after you wash them) to kill off any virus.
     
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    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Here’s part of it. Eye opening for sure:

    Doctors are left with impossible choices. Too much oxygen poisons the air sacs, worsening the lung damage, but too little damages the brain and kidneys. Too much air pressure damages the lung, but too little means the oxygen can’t get in. Doctors try to optimize, to tweak.

    Nobody can tolerate being ventilated like this without sedation. Covid-19 patients are put into a medically induced coma before being placed on a ventilator. They do not suffer, but they cannot talk to us and they cannot tell us how much of this care they want.

    Eventually, all the efforts of health care workers may not be enough, and the body begins to collapse. No matter how loved, how vital or how needed a person is, even the most modern technology isn’t always enough. Death, while typically painless, is no less final.

    Even among the Covid-19 patients who are ventilated and then discharged from the intensive care unit, some have died within days from heart damage.

    Even before Covid-19, for those lucky enough to leave the hospital alive after suffering acute respiratory distress syndrome, recovery can take months or years. The amount of sedation needed for Covid 19 patients can cause profound complications, damaging muscles and nerves, making it hard for those who survive to walk, move or even think as well as they did before they became ill. Many spend most of their recovery time in a rehabilitation center, and older patients often never go home. They live out their days bed bound, at higher risk of recurrent infections, bed sores and trips back to the hospital.

    All this does not mean we shouldn’t use ventilators to try to save people. It just means we have to ask ourselves some serious questions: What do I value about my life? If I will die if I am not put in a medical coma and placed on a ventilator, do I want that life support? If I do choose to be placed on a ventilator, how far do I want to go? Do I want to continue on the machine if my kidneys shut down? Do I want tubes feeding me so I can stay on the ventilator for weeks?

    Right now, all over the country, patients and their families are being asked to make these difficult decisions at a moment’s notice, while they are on the verge of dying, breathless and terrified.
     
  20. Curious Me

    Curious Me Long-Time Member from back in the day

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    It's very hard to face the endings,
    but unexpected things happen. It isn't just "old" people who should consider their informed choices while still in good health.

    I think, but I'm not sure, that now days instead of calling it a Living Will they call it an Advanced Health Care Directive in California.

    I already have a bright pink form that is called a POLST (Physicians Orders for Life Sustaining Treatment) hanging on my refrig for emergency situations, but the other is a more detailed directive to include your family members as your health care agents.

    I agree, parents don't want to leave a lot of hard choices for their children to have to make upon the parent's death, and that includes burial or cremation decisions.
     
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