Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #45

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And never mind deaths of covid will be on top of deaths from the flu, not instead of the flu.

Well, for the very elderly, they'll likely die of one or the other, if it's their season to die. There will probably be fewer flu deaths, since they will have already died of CV-19 if exposed. By next year, the epidemiologists will have figured a lot of it out (I can just hear those medical researchers critiquing their grad students and their data already).

Flu rates will probably be down this year, due to prior deaths and social isolation.

As to flu shots, there are differing theories about who should take them and why. This year's wasn't as effective as in some other years. It'll be interesting to see future studies about this year's CV outbreak and whether people with flu shots did better or not (or, whether newly vaccinated people did more poorly - it's just not known yet).

I haven't had the flu or a shot in years now. That's based on my own assessment of the shots and my health situation (and alternatives that I think work for me).
 
I have an android. I turn my location on and my phone tracks every location I go to,
How many miles I traveled and how long I was on the road.
All I have to do is go to my activity and a map pops up with everywhere I went.
My March and April History has my one trip to the butcher on April 3rd.
It shows I never left my address any other day.
(If you forget your phone at home, then obviously you won't get any data) < I do that sometimes! I usually carry it in my purse though.
For anyone interested...
Here's a link.
Moo
How to view your location history in Google Maps
wow..thanks for this.
 
The source used in the article is from Worldometer, but they do not have a curve per state. And again from there it is a Louisiana Link with numbers, no curves.
Is there any other source with a curve statistics for different states (or at least for Louisiana)?

United States Coronavirus: 386,194 Cases and 12,246 Deaths - Worldometer

This is a link to worldometer showing the states figures. I don't know if this helps. To get to the individual states just click on the underlined USA in the left hand column in the view by country table.
 
Kanawha County Judge: Test positive, refuse to self-isolate – get an ankle bracelet

CHARLESTON, WV (WOWK) – If you are a resident of Kanawha County and test positive for the COVID-19 virus, but refuse to self-quarantine, you may soon find yourself wearing a GPS ankle bracelet.

Kanawha County Circuit Court Chief Judge Charles E. King, Jr. Monday entered an order allowing the Kanawha County Sheriff’s Department to use the bracelets as a last resort to enforce a quarantine on people testing positive for the virus. That quarantine order is currently issued by the county’s Chief Health Officer.

King, in entering the order, noted that other states, such as Kentucky, have used the bracelets on those who refuse to follow the quarantine orders.

Kanawha County Commission President Kent Carper said, “We do not want to use the GPS ankle bracelets to enforce the quarantines, however, if we must we will.”

The order comes on the heels of West Virginia Governor Jim Justice’s executive order Saturday night to include Kanawha County to the list of enhanced restrictions as the number of confirmed cases there continues to grow and Monday’s announcement of a 4th death related to the virus.

Also Monday in Kanawha County, residents of the Esterbrook Center were being tested after a confirmed case was found in the skilled nursing facility.
 
I have an android. I turn my location on and my phone tracks every location I go to,
How many miles I traveled and how long I was on the road.
All I have to do is go to my activity and a map pops up with everywhere I went.
My March and April History has my one trip to the butcher on April 3rd.
It shows I never left my address any other day.
(If you forget your phone at home, then obviously you won't get any data) < I do that sometimes! I usually carry it in my purse though.
For anyone interested...
Here's a link.
Moo
How to view your location history in Google Maps

doesn't work for mine
there's no timeline after I tap the more button
 
what about elderly people who have no access or knowledge to internet??

The only elderly in the UAE are UAE Nationals - the length of time an expat can stay in the UAE after age 65 is limited. No resident permits - strictly short term even if it's for business.

The elderly are far more likely to have extended family to assist them. Failing that, some government agency will know of them already and what their needs are.
 
I have been keeping a journal since it hit over here. You know the ole pen and paper way. It will be a piece of history that future family generations will have. Basically daily entry of stats. Some I have what we did that day, which wasn't much.
 
So I have one elderly family member who has a McDonald’s addiction.

I just learned they’ve been sneaking out to go get McDonald’s even though they have been instructed to stay home and have others bring them what they need.

I suppose if they’re just going through the drivethru...Idk, still not a fan of this. Fast food seems dangerous to me. Maybe not if they wash their hands, take all precautions with packaging, etc. before eating the food.

Sigh.

Everything is dangerous. Everything.

Omg. I want a quarter pounder large fries and diet coke. But I do not trust the people making them. Thus I will suffer without.
 
No I see that but on each line for any state if you go across to the far right column there is more data to view if you double click.
This is what i already also tried, but it leads to a page with numbers, but no curves again. Do me a favour and hit this link on the far right for Louisiana?
 
Circulating on nursing forums, this is a better explanation of a possible mechanism for CoVid (summarizing various juried publications and pre-prints, as well as computer analysis of observations):

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"Might not even be a respiratory illness after all and that's just a byproduct of the wreckage it makes in blood haemoglobin (thus making ARDS a symptom not a cause).

I wish this would get more traction because if this computational analysis is correct, this could completely change the way we approach COVID, globally.

I will copy some summaries that explain this paper in layman's terms:

- Using computational analysis (modeling the behavior of a molecule in a computer), they've worked out the probable mechanism by which SARS-nCov-2 wreaks havoc on patients, as well as why chloroquine and favipiravir seem to work.

- Inside our red blood cells, there is a molecule called hemoglobin, which contains heme groups. Each heme group is a molecular "ring" (called a porphyrin) that can hold an iron (Fe) ion inside. Having an iron ion inside is what allows this heme to carry O2 (and CO2) in our blood. This is how our bodies move O2 to our tissues and remove CO2 waste products.

- The paper modeled these and found that the proteins produced when COVID replicates "collaborate" to knock iron ions out of heme groups (HBB) and replace them with one of the proteins. This makes the red blood cell unable to transport O2 and CO2!

- If the computer modeling is right, it shows that the virus hijacks our [red] blood [cells] and makes it unable to carry O2 to a patient's tissues/organs, and likewise unable to carry CO2 out of them. This would lead to organ and tissue death, roughly in the same way as if a patient were being suffocated. Even when a patient can breath (fill lungs with air), the oxygen isn't getting to the cells in their body.

- The inflammation in the lungs results from the lungs not being able to perform the oxygen/CO2 exchange, and would therefore appear to be a SECONDARY result of the hijacking of the blood. The lungs not working is a result of lack of O2 in blood, not the cause of it. Hence the "ground glass opacities".

- The paper models the behavior of chloroquine and faviparavir as well, which appear to bind to the non-structural viral proteins that hijack the heme groups, thus inhibiting them from knocking out the iron and wrecking the O2-carrying ability of the red blood cells.

- This also explains the observation made by various ER docs (incl this one in New Orleans) that patients tend to have elevated ferritin: ferritin is used to store excess iron. If a lot of iron is knocked out of heme groups and floating around, the body produces more ferritin

If true, this may mean a few things:

1. Starting drug treatment while symptoms are mild keeps virus from hijacking too much blood, enabling a still-healthy body to mount an immune response. Explains why early drug treatment (first week of symptoms) is often successful.

2. Drug treatment and intubation once patient is critical will rarely work because tissues/organs are already damaged, blood can't carry O2, and the body is too weak to produce new red blood cells able to carry Fe (and thus oxygen/CO2) even if drugs inhibit more hijacking.

3. Thus: start severe patients on drug treatment upon hospital intake to suppress further hijacking of blood by the virus, then give them a blood transfusion of new red blood cells immediately that are unhijacked. If all this is true, we would see rapid patient improvement.

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The problem is we have not yet had studies testing whether patients will respond well to blood transfusions from people who have not had COVID-19. Right now medical attention is focused on blood transfusions from those who have beat COVID and have antibodies. This needs to be looked at

This research ties in to the fact that weight/age/high blood pressure are such risk factor and why certain blood types are less afflicted than other

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Very interesting. Didn't you post an article before explaining more about the red blood cells? Can you link that previous article, and do you have the link to the nurses data you are reading? I have seen some exrays of how the lungs are damaged/fluids sooo quickly.
 
doesn't work for mine
there's no timeline after I tap the more button
You may have to.do a search for my location history on google.
Your location history may be turned off.
When I go to Google maps there is a little red circle on the right. I tap that and a menu comes up.
Location history has a crooked arrow icon. Click it and scroll. You should be able to see if the history is on or off.
Or do a search from the phone settings tab that looks like a gear for "location history"
Hope that helps!
MOO
 
In other news another family member who is a first responder, paramedic, has also been potentially exposed and is also in isolation.

I’m truly wondering how many family members and friends I will have left after all this whole thing is over with moo.

I am sorry, Margarita. I worry about the same. Especially family members that are out on the front line. Bless your paramedic family!
 
My 19 yo son is in the ER. He was there 2 days ago and told he had pleural effusion/water on his lung. He left NY state 2 weeks ago. He's clearly worse and struggling to breath. No one was allowed to go back in with him. A police officer was there to tell my mil the rules had now changed. Please pray for him and that he can advocate for himself while he can also barely breath. He's only 19 yo and he barely slept last night.

You must be so worried! Goodness, I will keep him in my positive thoughts. Hugs...
 
Omg. I want a quarter pounder large fries and diet coke. But I do not trust the people making them. Thus I will suffer without.

That’s how I feel about pizza delivery and pretty much every restaurant delivery. I’m opting for grocery delivery and cooking the stuff myself over food delivery but that is moo.

But as @jjenny said though, if you trash the containers and then nuke it, you should be okay...you know, @Herat, just like handling a package, grab the tongs, honk the horn, all that stuff. :D (Someone pkeeease hump that post, it was sooo funny I was crying I was laughing so hard! We all were! I need a good laugh!!

Grocery delivery isn’t a walk in the park either let me tell ya. Oh the process!! Oh the time and work!! I let it sit if I can at the doorway for days, or if not then with gloves transfer each item over a bucket of bleach water where if sealed like a can it goes in there, if not it gets wiped well with bleach bath. If it’s a pantry item it will then stay at the doorway for a few days even after wipes down. Then it goes into another container where I take it to the sink, and with new gloves wash it with soap and water. Then I transfer the item out of the package if possible (not cans). Here’s the deal. Every time I open the fridge and touch an original container, say sour cream, I’m worried and have to wash my hands and it’s soooo much handwashing I’m finding it much better just to put the stuff in my own ziplocks and containers moo. This is for my own piece of mind because every time I open the freezer or fridge I think about how long it can live..anyway I’m going way overboard. Better safe than sorry, and better for my anxieties afterward.

Re: restaurants vs grocery delivery, we don’t have many choices all the time. Sometimes we have to take what we get. It’s good that there is restaurant delivery. We all have to assess and handle our risk factors as we feel is appropriate and utilize whatever resources we have access to.
 
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My 19 yo son is in the ER. He was there 2 days ago and told he had pleural effusion/water on his lung. He left NY state 2 weeks ago. He's clearly worse and struggling to breath. No one was allowed to go back in with him. A police officer was there to tell my mil the rules had now changed. Please pray for him and that he can advocate for himself while he can also barely breath. He's only 19 yo and he barely slept last night.

Virtual hug and sending good vibes
 
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