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N95s with valves are pretty comfy. Of course they only protect the wearer. But they are comfy as they allow you to exhale freely. I plan to put a summer scarf over it when in a crowd.

That's what I was trying to do. And I don't know if it's because I've had past lung problems or because I have allergies that make it harder to breathe, but it was so hard to wear both. I touched my face so many times (and the mask) that it was getting ridiculous to pretend it was working well. I'd pull it down about every 5-10 minutes.

It was good practice. I bent the darned thing so my DH says it's not as effective any more. It doesn't have ear loops and I'm managing to get the loops tangled in my hair - I should have used a hair tie first.

Sigh. I just couldn't inhale as well as I'd like. But practice makes perfect and I have 2 more N95s on the way.

My daughter (a nurse) is not wearing an N95 in public, she's wearing a cloth mask with a filter. She's also staying 6 feet away from everyone and going to a grocery store that limits the number of people inside. She too is an asthmatic - so maybe that's it? Anyway, I was not a happy camper and it was way less effective than I thought - I did wear wrap around sunglasses properly.

So I'll try hair ties next and see how that goes. None of us is ready to go anywhere except where we have to go (which now includes seeing each other).
 
Respectfully, no thanks! I prefer them to be where salons and restaurants are closed for a couple more weeks. Their local town has had relatively low numbers but they are not taking any chances. Plus, thats our government advice.

Those people you see over 65? They are considered high risk vulnerable here in the uk (over 70s at least) and the government advice is to shield. They do have a care in the world, a huge one IMO. People such as your good self who are taking few precautions because you're not worried (from your posts), are mixing with them in the grocery store. Let alone half of where you were last night.

In fairness, I dont know where you are ofc and maybe you have had zero deaths and no new cases in the last two weeks. So maybe for your local older people there is no risk.

I see it as we're mixing with each other. And they, apparently, are fine with that. They've been around the block a few times more than I have and certainly have the right to make that decision for themselves.

I'm in Arizona. Which has very few cases and deaths. Just like the vast majority of American states. Nonetheless, the "advice" from the CDC, et al. is generally the same regardless of where you are. Which probably has a lot to do with why so many people ignore it. jmo
 
I hear your frustration and anger, but at the same time we need a certain percentage of stupid people right now. Since the genie is now out of the bottle and the virus is not just going to go away, research is crucial moving forward. We need this virus to travel through communities (at a reasonably low level) so that we have research subjects for treatments and vaccines. Whether these research volunteers are operating out of bravery or stupidity is really immaterial. It's bit ruthless, but realistically we need some people to volunteer to get infected so the rest of us can be protected by better treatments and hopefully, a vaccine. It's actually a plus that we seemingly have so many enthusiastic volunteers. We need the guinea pigs right now.

Though I do wish they would stop short of taking a dump on people's lawns.
ITA. I wouldn't call them stupid but rather selfish. Actions do have consequences. Always.

JMO
 
Malaysia reports 172 new coronavirus cases, most of them foreigners

Malaysia reports 172 new coronavirus cases, most of them foreigners

Joseph Sipalan
1 hour ago..
Malaysia reported 172 new coronavirus cases on Monday, most of them foreigners held at immigration depots, and taking the total number of infections in the country to 7,417.

The Ministry of Health said the number of deaths remained unchanged at 115.
 
I see it as we're mixing with each other. And they, apparently, are fine with that. They've been around the block a few times more than I have and certainly have the right to make that decision for themselves.

I'm in Arizona. Which has very few cases and deaths. Just like the vast majority of American states. Nonetheless, the "advice" from the CDC, et al. is generally the same regardless of where you are. Which probably has a lot to do with why so many people ignore it. jmo

I see your point, my concern is some of the elderly I interacted with at the beginning of this (Feb and into March) had no idea there was anything out of the ordinary going on.
Whether not taking it seriously or just not informed they just seemed unaware.
My coworkers parents and my own mom
watched the news but didn’t really comprehend what was coming. Many of our older shoppers didnt understand why we couldn’t get products any longer and would demand we provide them lol.
Even now my very informed mom will listen to my advice because the news is so overwhelming and confusing. Some of her friends call her upset only about not being able to get their hairdone or why the donut shop is closed, they’re inconvenienced but may have no one to explain how and why they need to be careful. These are the people I want protected.
 
I see it as we're mixing with each other. And they, apparently, are fine with that. They've been around the block a few times more than I have and certainly have the right to make that decision for themselves.

I'm in Arizona. Which has very few cases and deaths. Just like the vast majority of American states. Nonetheless, the "advice" from the CDC, et al. is generally the same regardless of where you are. Which probably has a lot to do with why so many people ignore it. jmo
Have you had any deaths in your home town if you dont mind me asking? It's interesting, the different approach.

The local hospital which serves their home town (pop 60k) and surrounding towns within the county has had 7 deaths.
 
Have you had any deaths in your home town if you dont mind me asking? It's interesting, the different approach.

The local hospital which serves their home town (pop 60k) and surrounding towns within the county has had 7 deaths.

By hometown, do you mean where I live now? If so, there have been 383 deaths out of 4.48 million in my county. I'm not finding it broken down by city/town, but I haven't heard of anyone dying.
 
That's what I was trying to do. And I don't know if it's because I've had past lung problems or because I have allergies that make it harder to breathe, but it was so hard to wear both. I touched my face so many times (and the mask) that it was getting ridiculous to pretend it was working well. I'd pull it down about every 5-10 minutes.

It was good practice. I bent the darned thing so my DH says it's not as effective any more. It doesn't have ear loops and I'm managing to get the loops tangled in my hair - I should have used a hair tie first.

Sigh. I just couldn't inhale as well as I'd like. But practice makes perfect and I have 2 more N95s on the way.

My daughter (a nurse) is not wearing an N95 in public, she's wearing a cloth mask with a filter. She's also staying 6 feet away from everyone and going to a grocery store that limits the number of people inside. She too is an asthmatic - so maybe that's it? Anyway, I was not a happy camper and it was way less effective than I thought - I did wear wrap around sunglasses properly.

So I'll try hair ties next and see how that goes. None of us is ready to go anywhere except where we have to go (which now includes seeing each other).
I haven't tried any scarfs with my valved N95 yet. But I have a very thin summer scarf that I think will be fine. I found a valved N95 more comfy than a cloth mask with a filter. I have a UV box I stick the mask into for a UV-C light disinfection.
 
You're Getting Used to Masks. Will You Wear a Face Shield?

May 25, 2020, 8:04 AM EDT
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Perencevich is an infectious disease physician at the University of Iowa and the Iowa City Veterans Affairs Health Care System. In an opinion article published last month in JAMA, he and two colleagues argued that simple, clear plastic face shields could help reduce the transmission of infections when added to public health measures like increased testing, contact tracing, social distancing and hand hygiene.

Perencevich believes that face shields should be the preferred personal protective equipment of everyone for the same reason that health care workers use them: They protect the entire face, including the eyes, and prevent people from touching their faces or inadvertently exposing themselves to the coronavirus.
 
This is disgusting behaviour, way OTT. The police need to pull that down and disband the protestors. Think what his wife and kids must be going thru - they must be terrified. Just vote him out next time.
They won’t be able to vote him out because this governor has such a high approval rating. That’s why they resort to this sort of stupidity.
 
Just wanted to say we had a great visit with family today. We wore our masks and stayed at least 6 feet apart. It rained but no thunder or lightening so we sat outside with them in the rain. Our granddaughter came running toward us then stopped so fast she almost fell forward. Her eyes filled with tears then Mamaw started crying too. Then our grandson air hugged both of us. The rain stopped before we ate. Everyone talked and laughed. It was a very good day, rain and all.
 
Medical professionals don't just wear face shields. They wear a mask and a a face shield. Face shields don't seal the face unlike N95 masks do.

True, but in some other professions, one might not need maximum level of protection. If, for example, I knew I was only going to have a 10 minute conversation with someone who is themselves masked (say, the receptionist at my dentist - which will be my next venture out).

I am having such a hard time with the N95 as outlined above, that I'm thinking a cloth mask + shield would give me about the same protection. Or even a surgical mask with the big droplet blue on the outside plus the shield (and of course, a neck gaiter).

Which reminds me. Do I ask my dentist whether they've all been tested and how often they test - or not? They are great people, I don't want to insult them. But they texted me and said I could make an appointment again. It's not urgent. So I think I"ll wait...and revisit all of this.

If I had to be in the classroom, I'd wear an N95 PLUS a faceshield (and gloves) and a lab coat and act like I was a weird anthropologist from Outer Space.
 
Just wanted to say we had a great visit with family today. We wore our masks and stayed at least 6 feet apart. It rained but no thunder or lightening so we sat outside with them in the rain. Our granddaughter came running toward us then stopped so fast she almost fell forward. Her eyes filled with tears then Mamaw started crying too. Then our grandson air hugged both of us. The rain stopped before we ate. Everyone talked and laughed. It was a very good day, rain and all.

Glad that you had fun. We did too. We went out to dinner at a restaurant with a large outdoor deck. Tons of Social Distancing, only 10 tables on the whole deck. The staff wore masks, and were amazingly diligent about cleaning everything.

It was great for my husband to get out, have some fun, and pretend that everything was normal. He has not been out to dinner since before March.
 
Today, out and about in San Diego on Memorial Day 2020.
Driving the one hour to our little old sailboat (surrounded by yachts), the freeway was wide open at 2 pm. That is amazing and noteworthy. That NEVER happens on a holiday in So. California. So, yes, people are still staying home.
I didn't stop but once for ice, for my groceries.
Masked of course. Plexiglass between checker at the gas station and myself.
Best thing of the day, some fishermen, released their leftover live bait into the channel in front of me, which of course caused all the seabirds to congregate, which drew the attention of a huge sea lion who came to pop up and snort at us all repeatedly.
The birds and the sea lion made my day.
For me, that's what I choose to strive for. Nature and all of it's beauty.
I can be careful, educated, and aware of the risks, yet still be safe. Even in a county of 3.5 million people.
Even if we'd never bought this tiny sailboat, I would buy a cheap raft or kayak in order to be with nature. There are things we can do to escape the maddening crowds.
This virus will pass. We know what to do to stay safe.
Everyone has choices.
I hope everyone here had a good day. Sincerely, Kali. Over and out.
 
I'm glad you all got out and enjoyed yourselves. I truly am. This has been a long, hard haul.

We just counted ourselves lucky to have a day when nothing happened, there was no substantial bad news and everyone we love is safe and happy. I went for a walk and was not nervous and did not wear a mask (came near no one, had a scarf just in case).

We still have a way to go with this entire CoVid business, but there does seem hope that warm and humid will produce somewhat less transmission, from preliminary data anyway - I'll try and post it tomorrow. It's not a good reason to go out in crowds, but for those who do, slightly fewer will get it.
 
I guess it’s past time for that G&T.
‘Cada cabeza, otro mundo’
Since I have an auto-immune disorder, I cannot afford to have a laissez-faire attitude towards this virus. So I will listen to the advice of DrTony and many other friends: our wonderful PCP, a friend who is a molecular biologist, and another who is a specialist in epidemiology.
We will continue to isolate, and wait...

‘I stand here. I can do no other.’
 
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