Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #62

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This is last night’s NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt. There is an excerpt around the 10:00ish mark which talks about a safety study on masks. It’s pretty cool; it shows respiratory droplets in a thermal type/IR enhanced color -type thing that looks like those hurricane satellite images you see. It talks about layered T-shirt material being an effective face covering.

Also, right before that, there’s a report from a TSA whistleblower, worth a watch moo. It’s no wonder so many TSA agents have been infected. They’ve also probably furthered the spread, moo, with little precautions that have been taken over the last few months (I had no idea).

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Eta: Also, I saw a video overnight in which the mayor of Miami is saying Florida MAY have to close down again. It may be this above video.
 
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I live somewhere that does not need a mask. So I choose not to. I have assessed my risk. That doesn't mean I will end up on a ventilator unless you have a link that confirms that. Catching CV and having underlying health conditions is what will put you on a ventilator. If I lived in London or New York then the situation could be different. I am not going to wander around the isolated Welsh Hills wearing a mask.

The isolated island of the Great White North where I live doesn't require a mask either, but if I have to tend to business at an indoor estabishment in the village, I wear a mask. And I give a stink eye to anyone in there not wearing a mask. Fortunately the villagers are still doing a lot of sidewalk business. The weather is nice and there's very little need to go inside a building other than one's home.
 
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Did you order the ones from shopDisney or from Etsy? My shopDisney ones arrive today! We also have several Disney ones I've ordered from Etsy. We are a Disney family! :)
From Shop Disney. Supposed to arrive early July. And I ordered them in April. Popular it seems.
 
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The isolated island of the Great White North where I live doesn't require a mask either, but if I have to tend to business at an indoor estabishment in the village, I wear a mask. And I give a stink eye to anyone in there not wearing a mask. Fortunately the villagers are still doing a lot of sidewalk business. The weather is nice and there's very little need to go inside a building other than one's home.

Lol! A whole lot of stink eye going around!!
 
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The isolated island of the Great White North where I live doesn't require a mask either, but if I have to tend to business at an indoor estabishment in the village, I wear a mask. And I give a stink eye to anyone in there not wearing a mask. Fortunately the villagers are still doing a lot of sidewalk business. The weather is nice and there's very little need to go inside a building other than one's home.
We don't need masks inside shops only on public transport. No stink eyes needed. :-)
 
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The coronavirus pandemic could cost the global economy a nightmarish $82 trillion over 5 years, a Cambridge study warns |


The coronavirus pandemic could cost the global economy a nightmarish $82 trillion over 5 years, a Cambridge study warns

  • The global economy could take a hit of some $82 trillion in a worst case scenario from the coronavirus, according to the Judge Business School at the University of Cambridge.
  • In case of speedy recovery, an "optimistic loss" of $3.3 trillion is likely. But in the extreme event of an economic doomsday scenario, the global economy could lose $82 trillion in damages, the Centre for Risk Studies, part of the university, said.
  • The figures are not meant to represent a shrinkage of the global economy, but rather how much potential growth the economy could lose if it slipped into a prolonged depression.
  • "The world economy is still in the midst of the 'full stop' described by Daniel Defoe some 300 years ago," Keith Wade, chief economist at UK fund manager Schroders, said in a separate note.
The global economy could be set back by a harrowing $82 trillion in damages related to the coronavirus pandemic over the next five years, according to recent findings by a University of Cambridge department that examines systemic risks.

These cost projections are based on 2019 gross domestic product volumes which stood at $69.2 trillion for the world's 19 leading economies. The contrast, in comparison, is visibly massive.

The Centre for Risk Studies at the University of Cambridge Judge Business School determined that the potential toll could range between what it called an "optimistic loss" of $3.3 trillion in case of rapid recovery, and $82 trillion in the event of an economic depression.


While lost value of $82 trillion is the worst case scenario, the centre's consensus projection was a loss of some $26.8 trillion, or 5.3%, of global GDP in the coming five years.


To put a figure on the potential impact to some of the leading global economies, the following five-year loss projections added more context (All %'s represent five-year GDP estimates):

  • US: Best case: $550 billion (0.4% of GDP). Worst case: $19.9 trillion (13.6%)
  • UK: Best case: $96 billion (0.46%). Worst case: $2.5 trillion (16.8%)
  • China: Best case: $1 trillion (0.9%). Worst case: $19 trillion (16.5%)
The centre was keen to stress that its metrics are not forecasts for what will happen, rather projections on what might occur. They are also not meant to reflect an economic contraction, but rather how much potential GDP is at risk.
 
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Menards is a Midwest store, much like Home Depot. Masks absolutely required, and a security guard (big guy) is at the door to make certain you are wearing. For sale $1.00 at door if you forgot.

I wish Lowes and Home Depot would do the same thing.
 
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BBM:

“On Friday, Houston reported 972 new cases, however, Mayor Sylvester Turner said this was due to a 2-week backlog in test result reporting by the state. Hotez told KPRC 2 Sunday that when he makes his projections and recommendations, he looks at a 7-day average in cases.


Hospital capacity

One set of data that is used to determine the severity of coronavirus in the area is hospital capacity and general and ICU bed usage. The South East Texas Regional Advisory Council (SETRAC) tracks that information for the Houston area.

As of Saturday, Houston area hospital capacity was:

  • 10.3% of general beds in Harris County hospitals were filled by COVID-19 patients
  • 22.8% of ICU beds in Harris County hospitals were filled by COVID-19 patients
You can see more data from SETRAC and use their interactive dashboard here.“

If Harris County continues same coronavirus track, Houston could be worst affected city in US, expert says
 
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Many recovered coronavirus patients are anything but

Written by Chris Reed

June 21, 2020


Many recovered coronavirus patients are anything but

Among the more than 1,000 people who have had the coronavirus in Southern Utah, there are 697 people who are considered recovered.



But while the dictionary defines being recovered as returning to a “normal state of health,” many who have had the virus locally have hardly been able to return to “normal.”



“There’s a spectrum in those who have recovered that they’re not hospitalized but not in their normal health standards and not able to do activity for several months,” said Dr. Angela Dunn, state epidemiologist with the Utah Department of Health.

[...]

To free up the quickly-filling beds, hospitals like Dixie Regional are sending coronavirus patients home as soon as they are past the point where they could die, but not necessarily “feeling better.”



“People discharged from hospital don’t just go back to their daily lives,” Dunn said.



A large majority of those infected haven’t been in the hospital at all. As of Friday, the Utah Department of Health said 92.7% of those who have gotten the virus in the state have not been hospitalized. But many are still having to suffer with severe symptoms at home. Hospitalizations are reserved for those with the most severe of symptoms.



And those symptoms aren’t going away after what was thought to be the two-week gestation period of the virus.



Social media is filled with examples of people who describe being on day 50, 70, 80 after getting diagnosed with COVID-19 and still dealing with its symptoms.

For some, it can be still not getting a sense of taste or smell back. For others, it is dealing with more severe conditions like uncontrollable coughing, inability to walk without pain, an on-and-off fever, damaged lungs and mini strokes.

A recent article in The Atlantic detailed several people who still feel sick long after they were considered “recovered” from the coronavirus.

Many of the coronavirus survivors have coined the term “long-haulers” online to describe having to deal with the effects of the virus long after they moved into the category of recovered.



Another online article, on the Upworthy website, compiles Twitter messages from nurses on the front line about patients considered recovered, including some of the nurses themselves.


They describe feeling “better,” then being bedridden three months later.

Some are in need of lung transplants or have gone from being perfectly healthy to eight weeks later having kidney failure and now needing dialysis for the rest of their lives.

A 24-year-old nurse describes chest pains and being unable to go up stairs months after her diagnosis.
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Cherie Antoinette

@sheriantoinette

Jun 14

COVID 19 is the worst disease process I’ve ever worked with in my 8 years as an ICU nurse.

When they say “recovered” they don’t tell you that that means you may need a lung transplant. Or that you may come back after d/c with a massive heart attack or stroke bc COVID makes blood thick as hell. Or that you may have to be on oxygen for the rest of your life. COVID is designed to kill. It is a highly intelligent virus and it attacks everything. We will run out of resources if we don’t continue to flatten the curve. I’m exhausted.

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Alicia

@YeahImAlicia

Jun 14

I am a nurse on a COVID floor, I caught it. I am a relatively healthy 24year old & could barely walk up a half flight of stairs. My blood pressure skyrocketed, chest pain was debilitating. I’m 8 weeks out and still feeling the chest pain and shortness of breath. This is no joke.
 
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BBM:

“On Friday, Houston reported 972 new cases, however, Mayor Sylvester Turner said this was due to a 2-week backlog in test result reporting by the state. Hotez told KPRC 2 Sunday that when he makes his projections and recommendations, he looks at a 7-day average in cases.


Hospital capacity

One set of data that is used to determine the severity of coronavirus in the area is hospital capacity and general and ICU bed usage. The South East Texas Regional Advisory Council (SETRAC) tracks that information for the Houston area.

As of Saturday, Houston area hospital capacity was:

  • 10.3% of general beds in Harris County hospitals were filled by COVID-19 patients
  • 22.8% of ICU beds in Harris County hospitals were filled by COVID-19 patients
You can see more data from SETRAC and use their interactive dashboard here.“

If Harris County continues same coronavirus track, Houston could be worst affected city in US, expert says
About 3 weeks after the big protests and huge GF funeral. Ugh
 
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Some Pubs Closing Temporarily as Florida Virus Cases Rise

"Florida started letting restaurants reopen last month and bars opened their doors last week after they were forced to close to stop the spread of the virus.

The surge in positive coronavirus cases comes as Florida is set to become a hub for major sports leagues. The NBA, Major League Soccer, the Amateur Athletics Union Junior Olympics and others plan to hold games and events in Florida, potentially drawing thousands of people to the state from around the world.

Universal Orlando, SeaWorld Orlando and Busch Gardens Tampa Bay opened their doors this month, and Walt Disney World is set to reopen its theme parks next month.

The percent of Floridians testing positive for COVID-19 was 5% on Sunday.

The vast majority of people who test positive for the coronavirus recover and many never experience any symptoms. The disease is particularly dangerous for the elderly and people who have pre-existing health problems"

The vast majority of people who test positive for the coronavirus recover and may never experience any symptoms.

??????
 
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This is (SARS-CoV-2) very similar to the first SARS virus.
There has been a lot of work, research and trials done on the first version. It is very possible that a vaccine could be available for a trial by fall 2020.
So it could take fewer than 4 years to be available to the public.
Then again there may never be a vaccine! All we can do is hope!
There is no vaccine for
  • Chagas disease (American trypanosomiasis)
  • Chikungunya
  • Dengue
  • Cytomegalovirus
  • HIV/AIDS
  • Hookworm infection
  • Leishmaniasis
  • Malaria
  • Respiratory Syncytial Virus
  • Schistosomiasis

Vaccine Nation: 10 most important diseases without a licensed vaccine - Baylor College of Medicine Blog Network
Moo

I noticed the article at your link is from 2013 so is not fully up to date. There is a vaccine for dengue fever; my DIL was involved in a vaccine trial for it through the NIH. Here is a link:
Dengue Vaccine | Dengue | CDC

Dengue Vaccine Globally
  • A vaccine to prevent dengue (Dengvaxia®) is licensed and available in some countries for people ages 9-45 years old. The World Health Organization recommends that the vaccine only be given to persons with confirmed prior dengue virus infection.
  • The vaccine manufacturer, Sanofi Pasteur, announced in 2017 that people who receive the vaccine and have not been previously infected with a dengue virus may be at risk of developing severe dengue if they get dengue after being vaccinated.
Dengue Vaccine in the United States
  • In May 2019, Dengvaxia® was approvedexternal icon by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the United States for use in children 9-16 years old living in an area where dengue is common (the US territories of American Samoa, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands), with laboratory confirmed prior dengue virus infection.
  • Information on the vaccine’s availability in the US territories is pending.
Another dengue vaccine is going through trials, not yet FDA approved.
Hopeful results from trials of dengue vaccine candidate

Info from WHO--lists diseases with available vaccines and pipeline vaccines:
Vaccines and diseases
 
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We don't need masks inside shops only on public transport. No stink eyes needed. :-)

Stink eye for maskless villains inside only. We've got no public transportation.
 
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Stink eye for maskless villains inside only. We've got no public transportation.
Our chemists shop employees wear masks but customers don't need them. That's the only place I have seen employees wearing them. The other shops all have plexiglass protecting the employees but masked customers are in the minority. Some shops have given face shields to their employees.
 
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I think they need personnel ( security guards) at the entrance to enforce it. We have some stores here who have guards ensuring customers only go in at the entrance and out at the exit plus make people take a trolley even if they only want one thing, because the trolley helps with distancing. Masks aren't mandatory at present in the UK except on public transport. Not sure how that is going as I haven't used public transport yet as I am limited to 5 miles except for essential or compassionate purposes. It is about to change soon but the rules are getting confusing now.

I wonder whether stores could tell those not wearing a mask to please call or order what they want online and then return to pick up their order curbside. Or would that enrage them further?
 
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