Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #70

Discussion in 'Coronavirus - Covid-19' started by Amonet, Jan 17, 2020.

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  1. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    As early as the Middle Ages, nuns were wearing face coverings in their hospital work. It was common for upper and middle class women to wear veils, which were loosely woven fabric, when outdoors.

    Also interesting is that nurse-nuns were often silent and "suffering in silence" was encouraged as a form of devotion.

    Both practices (veils and not speaking) would have slowed an airborne pathogen. Art from the period often shows women with their face coverings pulled down or aside, but it's clear that what we now call "hajib" was a custom in pre-modern Europe as well.

    Many essential market place functions were taken over by monks at the height of Medieval pandemics (growing food, drying beans, distributing food, etc) and they developed really interesting rules for who could and couldn't be "public-facing" so that the monks who actually grew and preserved the food were protected from local epidemics.
     


  2. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, a lot of people may not realize just how short that window of opportunity is.

    In one course I took, Johns Hopkins iirc, it’s says that 50% of people develop symptoms within 5 days. You back 48 hours to determine their infectious period, and there you only have 3 days. It’s hard to explain in one post, and I’m short on time, but it’s a race against time. Add the aspect of asymptomatic transmission, long testing turnaround times and this makes for an absolute disaster.

    CDC / Contact Tracing
     
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  3. CharlestonGal

    CharlestonGal Well-Known Member

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    The disconnect may be down to the fact you are in the UK. Here in the US we have a 24 hour news cycle that shows endless press conferences, congressional meetings and so on. We literally see our officials on the daily, many, many of whom do not mask.

    I think US posters are speaking to what we personally see on a daily basis that others outside the US may not be privy to. jmo
     
  4. Midgie2

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    Our DD is an Army nurse and yesterday she talked with a friend who has been deployed to a Texas hospital. Her friend said the hospital is all Covid and “every PT is proned, intubated, sedated and circling the drain “
     
  5. Tadpole12

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    Valid point wrt the mindset 30 days ago.
    Not solely the Paul Reveres and Patriots who considered the possibility.
     
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    People should be quarantining if they're waiting on test results.
     
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    Oh, my heart is wrung. :'(
     
  8. CoverMeCagney

    CoverMeCagney Well-Known Member

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    This is heartbreaking and reminds me of those horrible scenes in Italy all those months ago. How are they so unprepared this far down the line, with all the hindsight and advice from other nations and states.
     
  9. Tadpole12

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    How does it play out if a vaccine has 80% effectiveness.
     
  10. Tippy Lynn

    Tippy Lynn Well-Known Member

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    This virus is a complete disaster. Many improvements in how we are handling and treating the virus are needed, but we are making progress. Let’s give ourselves some credit.
     
  11. CharlestonGal

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    I'm hearing the same from many colleagues that are still practicing. It's horrifying.:(
     
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    I was happy to see at the mask link that the fabric masks I bought online recently are likely quite good. They are two layers of cotton batik fabric with a layer of chiffon in between, plus they have a pocket to add another filter if desired. I bought them at an Etsy store.
     
  13. margarita25

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    Time to blast that testicular report all over SM.
     
  14. margarita25

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    This is something which I feel is continuously undermined. It’s like some people don’t even realize or care about all these people in hospitals fighting for their lives, and the people treating them sacrificing their lives. When you see health workers talking, there is undeniably a somber and serious tone with all of them.
     
  15. CSIDreamer

    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    Which hospital is this?
     
  16. Midgie2

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    I’ll ask.
     
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    “Several states have been reporting record numbers this week, contributing to a surge in the national death rate. The seven-day rolling average for daily new deaths has risen 34% from two weeks ago, while the case count in that period shot up 43%.“

    [...]

    “To cope with the pandemic's fallout, the United Nations said it is increasing to $10.3 billion its appeal for humanitarian aid.“

    Military medics deploy in California, Texas as virus surges
    July 17
     
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  20. Rose in SC

    Rose in SC Lurker Who Lurks

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    Exactly. I was tested on Saturday (started feeling feverish Thursday night) and was told results would take 6 to 10 days. The subsequent anxiety of waiting is the worse 'symptom' for me so far. This is rural South Carolina.

    ETA: Catching up on this thread has made me realize - I have got to stop reading here for a while. It just feeds my anxiety. I'm in my 50s, overweight, with type A blood and I don't want to die. I'm not in great shape to begin with and I feel like I'm exactly the kind of patient that ends up "circling the drain." OMG. :(
     
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