Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #73

Discussion in 'Coronavirus - Covid-19' started by Amonet, Jan 17, 2020.

  1. margarita25

    margarita25 “Science, solutions and solidarity“ - Dr. Tedros

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    Hang in there buddy.

    For me the scariest time was when it was “unfolding”, (eta: and right now after my above post), the “anticipation”, and when it was in those initial growing phases - it was an awful foreboding feeling, and like a train you couldn’t stop...anyway, I/we feel ya’. This sucks is all I can say. Sending positive vibes your way and like I’ve said before, imo, if there’s anybody who can suppress it and turn things around, Australia can. I just finished Monday’s WHO Conference, and a reporter had asked about the new flare ups in some countries, and long story short, Doc T mentioned a hopeful, positive word about you guys. I’ve made a note to provide some transcription from that PC later. Hugs and, for me, one of points of light in this whole dark situation has been communicating with you fine folks in Australia (and Canada, NZ and UK of course :) ) throughout this ordeal. So chin up and hang in there.

    Eta ahahaha, this is coming from me who had a meltdown over Dr. O’s article yesterday, right @Cool Cats? :D

    You know, in the early days, I used to post this video a lot. I’ll post it again, with a special huge hug and shout out to @gregjrichards, who also loves “Airplane”:



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    eta: @PingTheRouter, 49ers fan, eh? How interesting. :)
     
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    Sundog Well-Known Member

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  3. Cool Cats

    Cool Cats Viruses come and go but love stays put..!

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    BBM

    Right...!!!!...:p...tsk...tsk
     
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    SoCalDavidS Well-Known Member

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    On second thought, maybe it was too soon.

    One of the first cruise ships in the world to resume sailing since the coronavirus-caused worldwide halt to cruising in March is experiencing an outbreak of the illness that has already sent people to the hospital.

    Norwegian expedition cruise company Hurtigruten late Friday said four crew members from the 535-passenger Roald Amundsen were admitted to the University Hospital of North Norway in Tromsø, Norway, earlier in the day after the vessel docked in the city.

    The entire ship has now been placed in isolation, and all remaining crew — around 160 people — are being tested for COVID-19. The line also is tracking down 177 passengers who left the ship early Friday to alert them to the outbreak.

    One of the first ships to resume cruising is having a COVID outbreak
     
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    Tadpole12 Well-Known Member

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  6. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Godspeed, STAY AT HOME. Be connected when isolated

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    It's so difficult to explain to others, but so concerning within the last 3 months information coming from Dr. Campbell and Dr. Seheult which still has yet to hit mainstream media.

    e.g. latest from here re sepsis... after the fact of viral diseases. (just had to smh at thread 3 recollection where there was MUCH dispute about what sepsis was... just sayin'...)

     
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    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    It is significant that the cases and deaths in Africa are so low. Why is this? Do they not have adequate access to tests? Or are the numbers that low?
     
  8. weepingangel

    weepingangel Well-Known Member

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    MLB
    MLB warns TV networks: Get alternative programming ready (reports)

    Reports: Cardinals COVID-19 outbreak gets worse

    It’s too bad they couldn’t have wasted all that money and effort elsewhere
     
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  9. margarita25

    margarita25 “Science, solutions and solidarity“ - Dr. Tedros

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    YES. I really noticed that as well.

    One theory I have on this, and this is from learning from the WHO Conferences, is that they have a lot of experience with infectious diseases, and strong focus on containing them. They have the African CDC, some very effective entities on diseases already established (iirc, there’s a very effective leader in Nigeria who is also part of the African CDC...). Also, they know their contact tracing. They are so committed to this in some areas, like West Africa, as I learned in one course where they have literally gone by tiny boat from village to village to contact trace, and as Dr. Tedros said about humble Dr. Mike who wouldn’t brag about himself, has gone door to door to contact trace with a helmet and bullet proof vest on, while wars and bombs are going off in the background. People from their teams have DIED doing this. Their tracing is strongly established; I’m actually certified via WHO in their tracking system they use in West Africa to successfully fight Ebola.

    Dr. Tedros is from Africa, Ethiopia specifically. So as Director General, he is no stranger to disease not only on the academic level, but also on the personal level. Like he has said in his own words, he is no stranger to famine, death, and...

    IMO, when a nation, continent, etc. takes something seriously and respectfully and collectively makes great efforts to suppress transmission, to the best of their abilities, the results can be seen. You won’t see them fighting over wearing a mask, I wouldn’t think. And the fact that we anticipated that Africa, due to all its challenges with poverty and disease, would be one of the first places to blow up - Boy were we wrong about that.

    This is not to say that Africa does not have its serious challenges in fighti bff this disease - they have had some concerning increases. Specifically challenging is the effect on health care systems.

    I hear reporters calling in from various places around the globe, and you can really tell the intensity and earnestness with which they voice their questions about the best way to suppress transmission, actions to take.

    JMO
     
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    badgersmythe Well-Known Member

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    I’m in the U.K. and I’m already seeing items that ran out in March and April, going out of stock again.

    I’ve only shopped online since March but Flour, tinned goods, pasta and hand wash are increasingly out of stock. My delivery driver told me they’re seeing an increase in people panic buying again and he warned me to stock up on toilet paper now.

    I am so grateful to you and the others on the first couple of threads that gave advice on things to stock up on. It enabled me to stock up on PPE and anti bacterial products for the gentleman I look after and we never ran out of any essentials during our lockdown. I cannot thank you enough.
     
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    human Well-Known Member

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    when I read they were going to do this I was astounded at the amount of people who wanted to go.
     
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    human Well-Known Member

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    I have friends in South Africa. They live in a wealthier part. Covid is out of control in South Africa
     
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    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    Something I've been wondering about, too. From what I remember, their life expectancy is on the lower side and they have a much lower obesity %. Age and obesity seem to be our 2 huge risk factors. Jmo
     
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    human Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! Good info.
    People’s idea of freedom is laughable. Other countries who took it seriously and locked down are covid free, like New Zealand.
     
  15. margarita25

    margarita25 “Science, solutions and solidarity“ - Dr. Tedros

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    Hi human :) And jumping off this, Dr. Mike was talking about new flare ups in Monday’s July 27 conference, gah I’m not even going to attempt to paraphrase, because I could never do it justice...I still don’t have that transcription yet, but will post when I can: he basically uses the analogy of how they use microscopes in “brain surgery”.

    He explains that new cases are to be expected even in countries that have been very successful in suppressing transmission. The key, however, is being in a position in the first place that when that does inevitability happen, you are zoomed in on it like a “microscope”; you know exactly where the virus is, and can impose measures only in that necessary area. Gosh there’s so much more he and Dr. Maria said about this. I’ll tag ya when I get the transcription. :)
     
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    margarita25 “Science, solutions and solidarity“ - Dr. Tedros

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    Yeah South Africa isn’t in a good spot right now. They’ve been having problems for a while now, which is wild because I remember when they were one of the few on the world map who were looking really good in the earlier situation reports. Remember how well they were doing?

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    Eta / checking in on SA /from July 30:
    South Africa coronavirus: Preparing for more deaths as cases surge - The Washington Post
     
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  17. SoCalDavidS

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    More Cardinals test positive.

    JMHO - Major League Baseball does not make it to the end of next week. Proof that even with BILLIONS of $$$$$$$$$$ at stake, you can't count on everyone to do the right things or exhibit intelligence.

    I'm hoping Basketball & Hockey can keep safe, they seem to be doing it correctly so far. I think Football is out of their mind if they are actually planning to have a season.
     
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    SoCalDavidS Well-Known Member

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    Per Worldometers - Florida

    9,642 New Cases

    179 Deaths
     
  19. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Godspeed, STAY AT HOME. Be connected when isolated

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    Yes, it is significant for this very reason MOO They, and other areas of the world that deal with pandemics and epidemics and endemics are structured for such to test, trace and isolate. The have done for decades. They better understand than the rest of the world and is what is helping at this point.

    They do have hiccups MOO when civil wars happen, or the verrrrrrrrrrry unfortunate situation with the viral misinformation a few years back that vaccine folks were ... I forget what they were saying.. "bad folks". It''s analagous to what is happening in certain parts of the world right now where leaders/politics disagree with health folks. MOO
     
  20. weepingangel

    weepingangel Well-Known Member

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    Meanwhile in Massachusetts
    More at links
    Massachusetts reports 14 new coronavirus deaths, 387 cases as positive test rate rises to above 2%

    “Delays in the reporting of test results to DPH from multiple laboratories, including large national commercial laboratories, are reflected in today’s case counts,” officials wrote in Friday’s report.

    The rate of positive tests in Massachusetts has increased slightly in recent weeks, which officials believe is the result of several “small clusters” of cases linked to recent gatherings. The seven-day weighted average of new positive test results has climbed to just over 2% from an average of about 1.7% in the middle of July.

    As COVID-19 clusters rise, Mass. Gov. Baker holds off on reducing public gatherings

    A 90-person prom party in Cohasset. An unauthorized sports camp in South Weymouth. A lunch break in Baystate Medical Center in Springfield.

    Baker cited these gatherings where people didn’t wear masks or didn’t keep their distance, or sometimes both, as the sources of some recent COVID-19 outbreaks in Massachusetts. The Republican governor called them a “recipe for disaster,” and said they need to stop if the state is to continue reopening, but he stopped short of reducing the public gathering limits from 100 for enclosed outdoor spaces.
     

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