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  1. Breaking Bad

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    [FONT=&quot]Apparently the Spota/McPartland case has been reassigned to Judge Azrack; next date April 12th @ 1:45.[/FONT]
     
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    There's another court date "conference" meeting scheduled 5/2/18 with Judge Berland
     
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    Which case is the May date for?
     
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    Is this about the 911 tapes, or Hackett's wrongful death case?


    Is the public allowed to attend?

    Anybody planning on attending?
     
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    Releasing the 911 tape/transcript is part of JR's case against Hackett. So, one and the same (basically).

    I have no idea if the conference meetings are public.

    Also, I don't know why JR (and/or a news outlet) is not giving us some info on what's happening. (Maybe, "legally" he can't... ???)
     
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    fred&edna Well-Known Member

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    May 15 11am

    SANFORD N. BERLAND
    COMPLIANCE CONF

    How many conferences does it take ??
     
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    Newspaper article excerpt:

    “We need those tapes in order to advance our case,” Ray argued at Suffolk Supreme Court in Riverhead. Besides Gilbert’s 23-minute call in which she reportedly told a 911 operator “they’re trying to kill me,” Ray is also seeking records of 911 calls made by Brewer and two other Oak Beach residents, Barbara Brennan and Gus Coletti, on the night of Gilbert’s disappearance.

    Ray told the court that detectives may be trying to hide information relating to this case — an allegation that the county’s defense attorney denied.

    Elaine Barraga, who represented Suffolk police, said that releasing the tapes would conflict with the open investigation, but there has been “certainly no effort in trying to hide or ‘fudge’ information.”

    Berland also questioned whether the investigation would be compromised by the release of the tapes.

    “By not being the homicide detective or having that expertise, I can only rely on what the detectives are telling me,” Barraga said of her argument that the investigation would be compromised by releasing the tapes.


    I find the last statement by Elaine Barraga, the SCPD lawyer quite significant. " I can only rely on what the detectives are telling me."
    It implies Barraga has not heard the tapes either.

    To me that means the SCPD really has something to hide. I thought that the SCPD would let Barraga hear the tape and they would be protected by Client-Lawyer Privilege.

    Then I discovered that rules of Privilege have exceptions:
    "Because the attorney-client privilege belongs to the client, the client’s intent determines whether the exception applies. Most courts will apply the exception even if the attorney had no knowledge of, and didn’t participate in, the actual crime or fraud.

    The crime-fraud exception applies if:
    the client was in the process of committing or intended to commit a crime or fraudulent act, and
    the client communicated with the lawyer with intent to further the crime or fraud, or to cover it up."

    So if the tapes show the SCPD is committing a crime or fraud or cover-up, the SCPD cannot let Barraga hear them as she could be forced to disclose those crimes.

    This is only my opinion and interpretation of what I believe is happening.
     
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    06/05/2018

    Sanford N. Berland


    compliance conf
     
  11. WINDSOR

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    It looks like another conference is scheduled tomorrow in front of Judge Berland regarding the release of the 911 tapes. It is my personal opinion that these tapes contain information that will be shocking to most of the public and detrimental to the SCPD. I am led to this belief by the fact the SCPD has fought so hard, not to have these tapes made public.

    I would not be surprised if the tapes were not released again.
     
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    You could be correct in your beliefs.
    Sadly, I think all these conferences have been filled with excuses by the SCPD - tape/transcript doesn't exist. Tho it would be nice if my opinion is wrong.
     
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    A member of LE said the tapes will not be released.
    He said "over my dead body".
    I don't remember who said it.
    I believe he has an Irish last name.
    It might be the idiot that said Jessica Taylor and Jane Doe killings in Manorville were not connected.
     
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    Fitzpatrick?
     
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    Do you have any idea what happen on the 5th?
     
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    It doesn't tell me anything on the website except it was "adjourned" (just like the two previous dates)... another date is scheduled 6/19/18.

    Oral arguments related to the call were "held" (I assume the attorneys actually argued their sides... again, jmo) on two conferences in March.

    The two conferences in May were "adjourned"
     
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    I wonder if there will be any good news today?
     
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  18. Breaking Bad

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    Don't count on it.

    I know John Ray is getting a writ from the Judge
    to be able to depose Pak.

    As I mentioned, he asked me for Pak's address on June 1.

    BUT SINCE JUNE 1 - there has been drama OFF THE
    FREAKING CHARTS with Meester Pak o lies.

    OH MY GOD

    NON STOP DRAMA
    he's a real DRAMA queen, but you didn't ask me.
     
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    I, for one, would like to know why
    Ray Tierney (AUSA EASTERN)
    did not charge
    Brewer, Pak and Diaz with Mann Act.

    And, for the record, the Feds have more power than SCPD
    and have the power to request that 9-1-1 call.

    SO?????? WHAT GIVES RAY TIERNEY, eh?
     
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    Anybody know what Judge Berland ruled on June 19 regarding release of 911 tapes?
     
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