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Discussion in 'Zahra Clare Baker' started by agathawannabe, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. agathawannabe

    agathawannabe New Member

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    ATBaker Criminal Records

    http://www.wikiupload.com/cxySvYZb

    EABaker Criminal Records

    Part 1 (1991 - 2001)
    http://www.wikiupload.com/G5LMklkF

    Part 2 (2001 cont'd - 2010)
    http://www.wikiupload.com/EHEzcJ6V

    Part 3 (Found add'l records 1990-1993)
    http://www.wikiupload.com/SxO9WjsG

    Part 4 (Still finding more records under aliases; Will Update in a Future Post)

    Spreadsheet (Sortable list of EB's criminal records)
    http://www.wikiupload.com/2oZ0wfvo

    Alias Surnames for EB found in Criminal db:

    Baker, Young, Allred, Harris, Proctor, Putnam, Fairchild

    ( See also EAYoung Address History: http://www.wikiupload.com/PAGFsEQk )

    Known EB Alias First Name Variations:
    Elisa, Elesa, Lisa, Leisa
     
  2. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    Great thread!
    Thanks.........
    any abuse of EB natural children????
     
  3. agathawannabe

    agathawannabe New Member

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    Good question. The only thing I'm seeing show up related to children are 2 charges: "Child Not In Rear Seat" (in part 1, I think), and "Child Not In Restraint" (coming in part 4).

    If there were DSS complaints re EB's bio children, it's quite possible they could have been handled in a "family court" in sealed cases.
     
  4. KikiWanBaniki

    KikiWanBaniki New Member

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    agatha--do you/we also have any record of known addresses EB used when she was living with relatives? My thinking here that if we have a public or MSM record, sleuthing those addresses would be 'fair game' for WSers.

    TIA to anyone with this info.
     
  5. agathawannabe

    agathawannabe New Member

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    Here is an address history from a public search

    http://www.wikiupload.com/PAGFsEQk

    Combine the info from the above link with the spreadsheet in the first post.

    You'll get at least a rough idea where she was under each alias.

    Hope this helps

    :smile:
     
  6. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, firimar!

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    I forgot to save the arrest report for AB on domestic violence charges. Does anyone have a link to it? (It is not contained in the arrest info linked at top of thread.)
     
  7. agathawannabe

    agathawannabe New Member

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    Do you know an approximate date of DV charge?
     
  8. agathawannabe

    agathawannabe New Member

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    Just checking...

    Kat,

    Are you certain there were domestic violence charges reported somewhere? Or could you possibly be remembering a discussion about the "domestic violence codes" in the criminal records (from General Discussion #36, maybe)? If it's the codes you're thinking about, this was an explanation I got from the county: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5772424&postcount=401"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2010.11.05 Media-Inside the Baker Home[/ame]

    If that's not it, I'll try to help track down whether there is a DV charge on AB -- I don't recall ever finding a charge specifically mentioning domestic violence among his criminal records.

    hope this helps
     
  9. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Just discovered from ancestry.com that EB was actually married to all of her aliases.

    She married Harris, Putnam and Proctor in South Carolina and divorced them all in North Carolina. So between 1985 and at least 1997 she was married 5 times.

    The only alias missing a marriage record on that site is Young, unless it was in another state altogether.

    www.ancestry.com
     
  10. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    So she was apparently married to AY? I wonder how many of the other 5 marriages might have overlapped since she was apparently marrying some of them out of state. :waitasec:
     
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    Kimmer Active Member

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    Ok if she was still married in the US when she got married in OZ then that means the marriage would not be recognized here? So what does that do to marital privileged?
     
  13. westsidefox64

    westsidefox64 Active Member

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    I tryed to go to the AY thread in the parking lot and it said I wasnt allowed in. Did I do something wrong or was it deleted?
     
  14. agathawannabe

    agathawannabe New Member

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    Good stuff, Kamille - thanks!

    Adding to this..

    She married (1) A. Winkler in 1985 (Caldwell County) and the marriage was soon annulled. [Source]

    (2) Harris, (3) Putnam, (4) Proctor , (5) Allred [1997]

    (6) Young [marriage record? apparently there is a divorce record showing August 21, 1009 per J. Moxley 11/17]

    (7) Baker [July 2008, per photos with marriage license in Australia]

    (8) Damien [forthcoming] ? j/k :crazy:
     
  15. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5814585&postcount=26"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Baker Family Dynamics[/ame]

    great post with link for biotry by EB
    and what about her family keeping this all secret from AB?????? esp. AY
     
  16. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Here's the article regarding EB's possible bigamy.

    http://charlotte.news14.com/content...ts-show-elisa-baker-may-have-committed-bigamy

    Interesting to note...

    Elisa Baker's attorney said Wednesday Young and Baker filed for divorce in South Carolina but later learned there were questions surrounding the person who granted the divorce. The attorney said that's what prompted Aaron Young to file on his own.

    What's up with her marriages and divorces in South Carolina? She married three men in South Carolina and divorced them in North Carolina and made an attempt to divorce another in South Carolina although there appear to be no records in either North or South Carolina stating they were married in either state. So what state were they married in? :waitasec:
     
  17. ynotdivein

    ynotdivein Retired WS Staff

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    Vegas?

    Or they had a handfasting-type ceremony without going thru the legal channels. But then we have to ask, what "marriage license" did AY show AB, and how can there be a "legal" divorce without a "legal" marriage?

    As I ponder... I think... ok, so maybe EB had a distanced marriage going on in the States, went to AU, fell in "luv", brought AB and Zahra back...

    There are ways I can see this whole hot mess involving EB and another party without AB's awareness. But it stretches credibility to think that AB was incapable of putting together all these pieces. I cannot believe that he was not complicit in the disposal.

    AB is in a bad spot. Either he is aware of/complicit in Zahra's death, dismemberment and disposal, or...

    he is the world's biggest cuckold.

    If I were faced with that choice (complicity vs. cuckold), I too would go the big-eyed innocent route.

    Whatever his involvement was, his best option is to play the clueless cuckold. IMO, that is...
     
  18. tehcloser

    tehcloser New Member

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    Mehbe they got married in the IMVU and forgot it wasn't real........
     
  19. Texas Mist

    Texas Mist Retired WS Staff

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    the thread was pulled, westsidefox...you didn't do anything wrong. :)
     
  20. Virgogalsue

    Virgogalsue Inactive

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    Where has the Virtual World thread gone? I can't seem to find it tonight!!
    Thanks!
     

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