Crystal S., Haleigh's mother

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Hey guys,I've actually been thinking about this and was wondering with all the media camped out,LE is around the park area,not letting people in that's not suppose to be,trailer still a crimescene.He knows he could be picked up anytime for questioning.I saw the video of Haleigh last night,she was opening her presents,she said,"Look Nana".It has hit me like a rock and I've hardly been able to sleep,I have a four yo gs and five yo gdaughter,I've heard,"Look Nana",a million times.It did what I was determined I wasn't going to do w/Caylee,make it personnal.I can not imagine how he's getting any sleep or peace and whenever I see him he's looking worse.He might even be on antidepressants or sleeping pills.I think when he saw GR,he was totally freaked out,angry,confused and scared.Can you imagine your daughter is missing,you're begging for help,a whole show could have been used to find Haleigh and you get what happened?That's when I started seeing more to the BioMom's family and switched my focus on motive.
 
And to think that a missing child's mother would use a national tv outlet to trash the father and not beg for your daughter's return.For the grandma to stand with with haughtiness and satisfaction on her face,instead of sorrow and worry.That was totally heartless and used for nothing more than a custody battle,it was disgusting and sick.I felt so sorry for Ron and his grandmother that beg for the return of Haleigh.And Ron never said one word against them,but that he loved Haleigh and he will find her.
 
LE is only giving some info to RC,TN said they were explaining why they're holding the trailer and they're following on some new leads.MG said they are not telling them anything last night.
 
winterrose said:
LE is only giving some info to RC,TN said they were explaining why they're holding the trailer and they're following on some new leads.MG said they are not telling them anything last night.
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I can't help but wonder if that reason is because Ron is legally and physically responsible for Haleigh. I know when we went through the custody issues many years ago, my stepson's mother couldn't even get medical records without my husbands approval or she had to file through the courts to get them.
I don't know..just thinking out loud here.:confused:
 
This man and his relatives went to help search and give support,when they got there an officer told them to turn around they have all the people they want in there and only approved searchers can help in the searches.A reporter last night at the campground said they are still doing searches,so I assume they don't want any crimescene trampled over.And also MG and Bio has endangered RC and JR's life saying he was an informant,any drug dealer can try anything now.
 
SeriouslySearching said:
During the same visit at the same period of time, I noted that Ronald was said to be resting. It says alot about the somber mood surrounding him and how his family is reacting in the situation.

The contrast is glaring, imo.
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I just have to say, as someone who knows what it's like to have a family member missing, I couldn't rest. My family and I felt we knew who was responsible and, believe me, we threw mud in that direction. This was not a high profile case, but if it had been, I'm sure the media would have caught some of our remarks. During all the waiting, our moods would go from what people might call a party atmosphere, to tears and I kept a bottle of wine close by to help relax me when I felt like I was going to scream. Once they found my sister's body and I knew she was gone, it was very hard for me to get out of bed.
Again, I don't know what happened to Haleigh, but maybe one family just feels more hopeful right now and one family feels less hopeful.
 
mydailyopinions said:
I can't help but wonder if that reason is because Ron is legally and physically responsible for Haleigh. I know when we went through the custody issues many years ago, my stepson's mother couldn't even get medical records without my husbands approval or she had to file through the courts to get them.
I don't know..just thinking out loud here.:confused:
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That was my first thought,but since MG is on the news now since Sunday,she's speaking for the biofamily,seems like LE would want to appease that side so nothing bad could be said about thier investigation.
 
kidz110 said:
I just have to say, as someone who knows what it's like to have a family member missing, I couldn't rest. My family and I felt we knew who was responsible and, believe me, we threw mud in that direction. This was not a high profile case, but if it had been, I'm sure the media would have caught some of our remarks. During all the waiting, our moods would go from what people might call a party atmosphere, to tears and I kept a bottle of wine close by to help relax me when I felt like I was going to scream. Once they found my sister's body and I knew she was gone, it was very hard for me to get out of bed.
Again, I don't know what happened to Haleigh, but maybe one family just feels more hopeful right now and one family feels less hopeful.
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Oh,I am so sorry,I couldn't imagine.Just seeing that clip last night of Haleigh,I couldn't sleep good and I was crying,my eyes were puffy this morning.I coudn't imagine how haunting not knowing what was happening to the missing.God bless your family.
 
I am sorry you had to go through that with your sister, Kidz. :( I see your point, too.
 
kidz110 said:
I just have to say, as someone who knows what it's like to have a family member missing, I couldn't rest. My family and I felt we knew who was responsible and, believe me, we threw mud in that direction. This was not a high profile case, but if it had been, I'm sure the media would have caught some of our remarks. During all the waiting, our moods would go from what people might call a party atmosphere, to tears and I kept a bottle of wine close by to help relax me when I felt like I was going to scream. Once they found my sister's body and I knew she was gone, it was very hard for me to get out of bed.
Again, I don't know what happened to Haleigh, but maybe one family just feels more hopeful right now and one family feels less hopeful.
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Or maybe one family is hopeful and one family KNOWS the outcome..not an accusation, but one family has repeatedly used the past tense regarding Haleigh. And yes, I am including Misty in that family.

Just thinking...not even an opinion really.....
 
Whenever I think of Caylee,I think of that one video of her dancing in front of the tv,so precious.If I was Crystal,I couldn't talk on camera without breaking down,seems like she has a hard time giving a tear.I think since Sunday she's doing better at it,because they're probably reading how people are questioning her lack of emotion.I really wonder if she regrets the GR show,hearing the backlash.First I thought she was in shock,now I just find it very odd and question it.
 
cajun said:
This is Marcus's myspace
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=126013788
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Yeah,I saw that,but this is a qp and on top of list,this is why I was wondering who he was,maybe a favorite nephew?I've just heard nothing about him.Not meaning anything by this,actually a seperate thought,but I'm looking for a young man in the family not being around that could dress up all in black to do something like take Haleigh.Someone close that would risk it.
 
winterrose said:
Oh,I am so sorry,I couldn't imagine.Just seeing that clip last night of Haleigh,I couldn't sleep good and I was crying,my eyes were puffy this morning.I coudn't imagine how haunting not knowing what was happening to the missing.God bless your family.
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Thank you, winterrose and SS.
 
Kat said:
That point, in of itself, is the paramount reason that would lead me to believe that Crystal did not stage anything. I don't see Ron or Crystal killing their daughter.
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I wish I could be that positive. Fact is that most kids under the age of five that are murdered, are murdered by their parents or the parents significant others. Most reported abductions for Haleigh's age group are commited by parents. The rest were never abductions to begin with, but rather murder by the parents or their significant others staged to look like an abduction.
 
winterrose said:
Whenever I think of Caylee,I think of that one video of her dancing in front of the tv,so precious.If I was Crystal,I couldn't talk on camera without breaking down,seems like she has a hard time giving a tear.I think since Sunday she's doing better at it,because they're probably reading how people are questioning her lack of emotion.I really wonder if she regrets the GR show,hearing the backlash.First I thought she was in shock,now I just find it very odd and question it.
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I have to say I agree with with Pirate. I just don't see CS as a really emotional person. That said, she may have already gone through tons of tears when she lost custody of her children. I would not be surprised if the fact that Haleigh was an everyday part of RC's life and CS had already had to adjust to only seeing her part time has something to do with the difference in the emotions we see.
 
nancy botwin said:
LawGirl41 posted this in the Ronald thread, but I thought I'd bring the transcript of the 2005 custodial hearing into this thread as well: http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/e/4/2/e42078af-0580-47ab-8b13-b60c9d0f9ac3/cummings1.pdf

My impressions from this transcript and other things we've been able to read/see:

*Crystal S. did want custody of her children and did attempt to seek it/retain it several times.
*Crystal S. was not equipped to represent herself in the legal system and as a result, she wasn't able to get custody--
* I do not think custody was granted because of a well-measured contemplation of the best interests of the children-- it was about $ and who knew best how to navigate the court system.
* Ronald C. was able to represent himself and maneuver effectively within the legal system. IMO he's a bully and he used the system to bully Crystal.
* Crystal S. seems intimidated by Ronald C. She didn't even obtain a drivers license until after she had separated from/moved away from Ronald C.

-- Basically, I think the entire custodial situation reads like a classic domestic violence-meets- the legal system situation.

I don't think Ronald or Crystal are directly responsible for Haleigh's disappearance, but I REALLY don't think Crystal resonates as vengeful or as if she didn't want to be with her children.
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Nancy, I respect your opinion and just wanted to know your thought on the rest of the record. I realize that without the actual documents, it's hard to tell, but just wanted your thoughts.

Do you think that once the court ruled in the 12/27/05 Hearing they were just reluctant to reverse their decision? I notice she did get legal representation after that, so I'm just trying to figure out how this all went "wrong".

UCN: 542005DR001321FDXXXX
File Date: 2005-09-16
Disposition Date: 2007-11-08
File Type: PATERNITY - FD12
Judge: A W NICHOLS III

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES
Defendants
SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE

2005-09-16
001.PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF
2005-09-16
002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE
2005-09-16
003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
2005-09-16
004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER
2005-09-16
005.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER
2005-09-16
006.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED
2005-09-16
007. SUMMONS ISSUED:CRYSTAL DIANE SHEFFIELD 9/19/2005
2005-09-16
.ADDRESS:11024 ARROWBROOK JAX FL 32221
2005-09-16
.SUMM RT 10-26-05 SVD 10-05-05 DUE 10-25-05
2005-10-18
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2005-10-18
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2005-10-26
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2005-10-26
009. MOTION FOR DEFAULT
2005-10-27
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2005-10-27
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2005-11-01
013. EMERGENCY VERIFED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER
2005-11-01
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2005-11-01
015. ORDER SETTING ASIDE DEFAULT - EEH
2005-11-01
016.ORDER OF REFERRAL TO GENERAL MAGISTRATE - EEH
2005-11-01
.PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND FOR RELATED RELIEF
2005-11-01
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2005-11-22
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2005-11-22
.PETITIONERS MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY
005-12-01
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2005-12-01
.C/S TO BE DETERMINED, SHARED PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH
2005-12-01
.FATHER,. STANDARD AT FATHER DISCREATION, JUDICALLY
005-12-01
.RECOGNIZED 05-1354 -FD, RONALD CUMMINGS DECLARED LEGAL
2005-12-01
.FATHER OF BOTH CHILDREN , SHARED PARENTAL RESPONSLIBILTY
2005-12-01
.WITH PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH FATHER, STANDARD
2005-12-01
.VISITATION DISCRESTION OF FATHER IF SAFETY FOR THE
2005-12-01
.CHILDREN CONCERNS ADVISE, 24 HRS NOTICE TO EXCERSISE
2005-12-01
.VISITATION , MOTHER NOT TO REMOVE CHILDREN FROM THE
2005-12-01
.STATE OF FLORIDA WITHOUT FATHERS WRITTN CONSENT OR
2005-12-01
.FURTHER ORDER OF THE COURT
2005-12-05
021.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL MASTER-MP
2005-12-05
.PET. FOUND TO BE FATHER OF MINOR CHILDREN, SHARED
2005-12-05
.PARENTAL RESPONSLIBLITY, WITH PETITIONER HAVING
2005-12-05
.PRIMARY RESIDENTAL CUSTODY, UNSUPERVISED VISITATION
2005-12-05
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2005-12-05
.PAY C/S OF $323/MTH TO BEGININING WHEN ORDER SIGNED
2005-12-05
.BOTH PARTIES TO MAINTAIN MEDICAID INSURANCE ON BOTH
2005-12-05
.CHILDREN
2005-12-05
019. NOTICE OF CURRENT ADDRESS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD
2005-12-05
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2005-12-06
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2005-12-06
.REHEARING
2005-12-08
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2005-12-13
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2005-12-13
.MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF
2005-12-13
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2005-12-27
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2005-12-27
RESPONDENT
2005-12-27
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2006-01-03
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2006-01-06
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2006-01-06
OF MAGISTRATE
2006-01-20
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2006-01-20
AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS OF MAGISTRATE-PETITIONER
2006-01-24
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2006-01-25
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2006-02-28
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2007-02-22
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2007-11-08
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2007-11-26
FL#200754636011
2008-06-16
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