CT - Homeless women arrested for sending her son to school

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  1. RLynne

    RLynne Verified Expert

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    I have to say, I agree.

    I have been a homeowner for seven years now, and directly pay property taxes. Before than, when I rented, property taxes were reflected in my cost of rent.

    I don't have kids, and don't plan to. However, I have never begrudged one cent of my taxes going to schools. I have never voted against a funding referendum to raise my property taxes for schools (and unless my local school board goes off the total deep end in what they're asking for, I never will!). I may not see a direct benefit to my household for my tax dollars going to education, I know that I indirectly benefit from kids in my area getting a good education. Not only is it cheaper in the long run (e.g, see the above post from Nova about the cost of prison), it's also just the right thing to do.

    I do have concerns, that I see in my state, about different districts having different levels of resources to educate kids. I was lucky--my parents lived in a good school district that had the ability to offer tons of extracurricular activities, lots of AP classes, etc (because of AP credits, my freshman year of college I was actually considered a sophomore, which gave me a huge edge in things like being able to sign up for classes earlier, etc.). I wish all kids in my state had access to the resources that I did as a high school student. I'm starting to veer off topic, but there has to be a better way to finance education than through local property taxes.
     


  2. jjenny

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    Just because the child is from a poor family, does not mean his or hers greatest feat in life will be asking "do you want fries with that."
     
  3. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    Prisons are already so overcrowed it's not funny, seems to me there is a revolving door that keeps sending them back out.

    I don't think it should take 12 years to teach a child to work at McDonalds, mow lawns, dig ditches, pump gas etc. While that may seem like I am putting those professions down, I'm not. There is nothing wrong with good honest hard work. In no way do I believe the public education system is doing a good job providing education or keeping people out of prison.
     
  4. WhyaDuck?

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    Well, I gotta agree with this one. I grew up on welfare and food parcels, and I've got a PhD now. Though, I suppose some people would have rather seen me taken out back and drowned in a bucket for draining the system as a child.
     
  5. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    I never said that, nor did I mean to imply it.

    Dumping money into "poor" school districts is not the answer. In New Jersey we've seen it time and time again.

    Education STARTS in the home. Without a respect for education, the desire for an education, parental involvement or even decent role models most children fail.

    Too much of the money schools recieve goes toward administration, I could go on and on. But face it. The public school system is broken.
     
  6. WhyaDuck?

    WhyaDuck? Inactive

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    I agree that the system is very tired out, and I am not a major fan of public schooling. There are many things that could be done better. And I also wholeheartedly agree that learning begins in the home, and ideally all children should have parents who give them the best start in life.

    However, since things aren't ideal, I think trying to give kids what we can through the public school system is the best we've got, since it is not really possible to enforce the best possible start for children at home. At least it gives them some chance.

    I don't know - we're not going to solve the issue here, I'm sure. Unfortunately.

    However, this one parent was trying something - it seems there was some desire to give the kid a boost, even if people looking at the situation believe it's not enough or a doomed effort.
     
  7. kgeaux

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    Wow! Congratulations!! You are a perfect example of the benefits of a good education.
     
  8. peeples

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    I think she was talking about whyaduck's post, #44 :)
     
  9. CuriousHousewife

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    It's a great thing that we have a public education system supported by taxpayers dollars to get results like this!

    ...and I mean that without even a smidge of snark. Totally serious. Good for you!
     
  10. WhyaDuck?

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    One of my pet peeves has always been that people assume kids don't get anywhere in life because they are on welfare, when, really, might it be they don't get anywhere in life because people assume they won't?

    That was my point. I didn't post to receive praise (though I thank you for it). :blushing:

    ETA: I was lucky - I had good parents (a wonderful mother), and a good social worker, and good teachers and a couple of excellent principals, and a supportive government and a safe community, all of whom saw that my situation in life at the time didn't have to define how far I could go in my life as a whole.
     
  11. CuriousHousewife

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    You're getting some praise anyway. Enjoy it!

    It's true, though, that life is about 90% what we make of it. You can have all of the advantages of money and a good, private education or whatever, but a lot of those kids end up being total losers in life, too. Education is important. Money means nothing if you don't use your education to your advantage.
     
  12. Nova

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    I spent much of my childhood below the official poverty line, but I went to a great, experimental high school, an Ivy League college and a world-renowned grad school. And, yes, it made a huge difference in my life and in the lives of my children and grandchildren. (And for those who only care about dollar and cents, a great education meant hundreds of thousands of dollars in extra taxes over my lifetime. So please take that with your fries!)

    It is criminal what we've done to educational systems at all levels in this country. Prosecuting some homeless woman in Connecticut doesn't begin to address the problems.
     
  13. LolaMoon08

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    :clap::bow::bow::bow::clap:
     
  14. tlstcb

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    What makes this womans child any different from the other children that live in his area. This mother is teaching her son to cheat,lie and to disobey the law at a very young age. Is her child any better than her neighbors child. why not just let the county he is enrolled in pay the tax bill the rest of the country.
     
  15. Donnabert

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    Hopefully she'll get a lawyer who will force the prosecution to take it to trial and get a little jury nullification going. I'm sure jurors would be PO'd to take time off work for this sort of nonsense.
     
  16. Donnabert

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    Are you serious? I'd bet my left arm that the parents of those kids pay taxes just like you do. And who are you to say 1. that they will end up working at McDonald's and 2. that working at McDonald's isn't something to be proud of? I hate to say it but your comments seem really uneducated (funny enough).
     
  17. Donnabert

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    Yes, they'd like to send her to jail for over a year, and pay for her to a roof over her head that way, instead of helping her find work so she can pay for her own living situation. That's the government for you!
     
  18. Melanie

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    I don't know about any of you, but I had to bring my rental agreement along with a current utility bill to enroll my son. I can' be the only one.

    MOO

    Mel

    ETA: the school district next to us is much better (Poway), but what am I gonna do? Lie? That's just not cool and I don't see how people get away with it. You can't exactly fake an address unless you're PA Baker, then you have to deal with all sorts of problems. Report cards, notices, and the like are also sent to MY home. If you're lying about your addy where is it going? Seems like a LOT of trouble.

    If you don't like the school district you're in, then bloody move!
     
  19. Melanie

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    gaaaaaahhh! I grew up in the 70's, in San Fernando Valley, where the district bused in kids from central LA. This was called forced busing. Today they call it magnet programs to encourage diversity.

    I do have a choice if I want to send my child out of the area, but I chose not to. Most schools are near the border, and just too far.

    So if we can have magnet programs now, I don't get why this woman is even being picked on. What about all the illegal aliens we pay for? My goodness 40 percent of the kids at my sons school don't even speak english.

    I know many don't live in the area - mums come and pick them up/drop them off. I really don't know how they get away with it.

    Off my soap box now!

    Mel
     
  20. 'Ailina

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    This woman is obviously struggling. We can't know everything about her, but what we do know for certain is that she lacks stability. No matter what got her there or why she hasn't gotten out of it...not the child's fault.

    I'm guessing it's enough of a challenge for her to tend to the basics, even beyond food, clothing, and shelter. When you're at the bottom of the barrel, what does a mother think to do first? Provide for her child.

    If she's looking at another day of hardship and decides she's going to take just a single step in the right direction, it will be to put her kid in school (aside from the fact it's compulsory).

    I hope someone comes to her aid, in litigation and for social support. God forbid her child suffer more.
     

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