@gitana1 totally missed you today and your practical approach to understanding these proceedings. The documents (most of them) are out on social media but its hard to pull them into WS. Looks like the next hearing on July 15th might resolve many of the questions people are raising here about status of Pattis and GAL. Pattis/FD are pushing for custody and even though GF went to Probate Court to gain temporary custody I'm concerned that Family Court could overturn the custody situation as it presently stands. Grandparents rights are tenous and I think many are concerned about the ability of a grandparent to gain permanent custody in this case. FD is barred from the children and family of JD presently so far as I know but how long can the court hold out against a father asking for custody?