Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #15 *ARRESTS*

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  1. enelram

    enelram Well-Known Member

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    MOO
    I believe his eyes are so dilated from Cocaine that what you're seeing are primarily his pupils.
    This would fit in with his hyperactive going all
    night behavior.
    even at his first hearing he still had the wild eyed look cause many stimulant drugs take
    a while to totally leave the system.
     
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  2. Twistinginthewind

    Twistinginthewind Well-Known Member

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    Re assets:
    IIRC JD supposedly had around $400k a year in income. That's significant, and FD no longer had access to it for the last 2 years and was pleading poverty and the lawyers fees and property taxes on all his empty McMansions were probably piling up.
    IIRC MT supposedly had around $4k a month ($48k a year) in child support, and she earned a salary when working for Fore Group of around $120k for perhaps 2 years, and she and her sister had that company when she lived in FL selling the Seal footwear, so she still may be collecting royalties from that business (which I surmise is why she has been referred to as a "CEO" in some headlines).
    MOO.
     
  3. CTGrammy

    CTGrammy Expert IMO

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    As noted in my post, up thread. I have a Better Business Bureau link that shows that Fore Group began business in November of 2004, 3 months after FD married JD. Then FD had the business incorporated in 2007.
     
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  4. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    Wanted to put an article into the thread by the Middletown Press about the impact of the Dulos case on Family Court in CT. First article I've seen to talk about this challenging topic in any detail. So, IMO Kudos to Middletown press!

    Dulos divorce could have lasting impact on CT family courts

    Quotes from article:

    "More than 300 motions were filed by the Duloses in their two-year divorce battle before the disappearance. Data shared by the Judicial Branch on Thursday indicates that the Dulos case may be among the most litigious of all divorce cases in Connecticut".

    Only three Connecticut cases of more than 11,000 disposed in fiscal year 2019 had more than 200 filings by the plaintiff and defendants before a judgment was reached. [BBM] Shoutout to Judge Heller that she was handling such an 'outlier' case and extra attention and focus might be called for and perhaps a referral to criminal court due to extensive DV issues most of which appeared to be ignored IMO by Judge Heller.

    Michael A. Albis, chief administrative judge for family matters, unveiled a “Family Court Triage” initiative last week that he said will help address these concerns. [BBM] Good news! Someone is paying attention in the CT judicary! Thank you! Judge Albis might I respectfully suggest a review of Judge Heller's handling of the DV issues in the Dulos case and also a full review of why this case was not moved to criminal court due to DV issues and why no consequences were ever imposed on FD for non compliance with financial information requests by the court? Has Judge Heller received any current training in DV issues that the State of CT is aware of?

    The program would bring divorcing couples into court 45 to 60 days earlier than they would have previously had an appearance. Cases would start with a mandatory conference with family services prior to seeing a judge. Then, each would be assigned one judge and one family relations counselor for its duration, and judges would also have more scheduling authority. [BBM]

    Sean Barrett, another lawyer who handles divorce cases, said reform efforts will face tests at the Stamford courthouse, which features many of the state’s most complicated divorce cases.

    “These types of custody battles, where there’s hundreds of motions filed, more often than not happen in Stamford,” he said.

    Lucibello agreed, noting that the most complicated divorce cases are those that involve a “trifecta” of contested custody, alimony, and lots of assets to divvy up.

    “Just by the nature of the location, Stamford court does see a lot of these cases,” she said.

    There’s always room for reform, and some cases drag out unnecessarily, she said, but it’s unclear how much is due to the structure of family court and how much is due to the individuals or facts involved in a certain case.

    The complete facts of the Dulos case are not yet available, but of those that are known, “it does tell you that there were some significant issues involved,” Lucibello said. [BBM] Really?

    MOO
     
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  5. SoBu

    SoBu Well-Known Member

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    I can’t stand FD, but I am quite certain the color of his irises, that he was born with, has nothing to do with his thoughts and behavior. He may have a “look” that is subjectively meaningful to some people, but there’s no need to stigmatize that eye color.

    Edited to add, I myself and many others have that eye color, but none of those traits or drug habits FD is being accused of.
     
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  6. BellaVita

    BellaVita Well-Known Member

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    I have always thought very dark brown eyes are the most beautiful color of all. I will say however that there is a physiological basis for what is said about large pupils and iris becoming darker than they would normally appear. Many victims/survivors of abuse report this. I have seen it. It does happen, IMO. I would never think that across the board people with dark eyes are evil. I am sure your light shines. After all, you are here supporting JD.
     
  7. HopeForTheBest

    HopeForTheBest Well-Known Member

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    I don’t understand it but several relatives have had these kinds of terribly destructive relationships that cost them money, relationships with their kids, and more, and nothing
    I never had heard anyone say that about JD but am so glad you handled this so unequivocally!
     
  8. Midwestmom2019

    Midwestmom2019 Well-Known Member

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    Meh. FYI.
    Car wreck case was discussed several posts back. His insurance company handled his defense. They call all the shots, even the appeal. He just sat there.

    As to building his houses? Most were so called “spec” houses. And “custom” means as opposed to plain vanilla. Not build to order. Usual residential construction terms and definitions. Speculative in that they were built with interim/construction financing, Hilliard Farber money, then sold to a purchaser. Sometimes a purchaser may purchase before completed, picking some colors. Got the impression that most of the houses were not built for a specific buyer. Rather built and hoped they would sell. Sold many early on, but as of late, when Farber money dried up, Fore was in trouble. Fore could not bankroll interest payments due under terms of construction financing, especially since Fore was holding several lots and white elephant McMansions in Farmington, a lower priced community than NC. Add houses in NC. Those monthly interest payments start adding up quickly. Add other holding costs of insurance and real estate taxes, utilities, security, lawn care, advertising blah blah blah, he was drowning financially.

    Make no mistake. I agree with much of what you say, especially peeling off money and sending it overseas. And he’s an a—. An all around great man to bring home to meet your family. Barf!

    But remember, he had high credentials, from educational institutions, employment etc. He looked good on paper. And handsome and charming in person. What more could a future mother in law want?

    An axe murderer?
     
  9. Bulldogs2

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    Thank you Grammy
     
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  10. Midwestmom2019

    Midwestmom2019 Well-Known Member

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    What’s significant?
    She had the money. It was hers before marriage. She keeps it.
    Next?
    He wanted the kids for the child support he was hoping to collect. He’s an unfit parent. Never mind that he’s gone 10 out of 30 days a month. She’s there every minute of every day.
    Next?
    Fore was in financial shambles. No value. Nothing to fight about.
    Next? Aha!
    The only thing needed? Forensic accounting to track potential theft/secretion of assets. Taking money by cover of secrecy.
    Ok. Anything else?
    I didn’t think so.

    Court clerk announcement: “Next case called on the court docket is Jane Doe vs. John Doe....”
    FYI. You cannot move a divorce case to criminal court. Civil includes family law. Murder goes to criminal court.
     
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  11. Bulldogs2

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    Thanks for this article. I e been to that Middletown family court as a professional and I’m always stunned by how long these cases take. There were so many red flags in this case for DV that I don’t kniw why it wasn’t picked up. I’m not talking certainly about all professionals here but some of the professionals they hire to do these psychological evals are just doing it for the money. MOO
     
  12. bubby girl

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    can't wait for FD and MT drug tests results to come back during their trials!!!!
     
  13. BellaVita

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    Cocaine leaves the system pretty fast. Hair samples are most reliable.
     
  14. Midwestmom2019

    Midwestmom2019 Well-Known Member

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    FD had two reasons to buzz his hair.
    Slim chance of a stray hair falling out of his head and to be found at any murder scene.
    Many drugs are difficult to prove with a very short hair sample. Add shampoo that is designed to pass any hair follicle drug test, his hair would test clean.
    However, no short hair no dna found at the scene would certainly go a long way to prove premeditation. Hmmm. Wonder if LE vacuumed the garage and house. Now, wouldn’t THAT be interesting. Or JD Suburban? Wow. That would be awesome.
    Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we first attempt to deceive.
     
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  15. SoBu

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    Thanks for your response. I’d appreciate a link to a reputable source, as I’ve never heard this, and it interests me. I’m not personally offended. I just don’t like to see people coming to conclusions about any “congenital features” that just can’t logically be made. In fact, how can we even conclude that someone has large pupils if they have very dark brown eyes with this level of visual access to that feature? Now, shifty eyes, wide open eyes, or other behaviors are a whole different subject.
     
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    Random thoughts tonight!

    I wish LE would make another statement that wouldn’t compromise their investigation but drop a little innuendo to worry the accused and offer a little nod to the public that progress is being made.

    IMHO during the assault in the garage JD was brilliant and brave and not only fought back but I think she warned him that her cleaning lady was arriving any minute so that he’d panic and she knew as a result he’d be hasty and sloppy thus leaving evidence to incriminate him.

    I know and appreciate LE is working tirelessly on this case for Jennifer’s justice leaving no stone unturned as they know whom they’re up against and need an airtight case.... I just feel like I don’t want to presume things such as if they’re tracking/saving each and every single MSM statement, press interview, on radio/ tv etc. made by FD and his team of attorneys/family members/Greek parking attendant (is that what she was?) so that that when they try to change venues, they’ll be flatly denied. He and his posse is largely responsible for attempting to sway the public and potential jurors and therefore has no right or case to request a change. It just seems like the court has been so soft on both FD’s and MT’s ankle bracelet incidents that I’m worried.

    It’s quite obvious that the prosecution and MT’s attorney are tight-lipped.

    I also wonder if they’re reading all of JD’s blogs and will present them in court as they are a treasure trove. The one where she talks about the family bed and to paraphrase IIRC was how she was up with the littles all night long as they were out of sorts after traveling and she was trying to settle them down for the night one child after the next child waking up and moving from room-to-room and how she finally succeeded after hours and hours of patience and then FD got up at 4 am and noisily took a shower and turned on the lights. His selfishness is maddening and a testament to how he only cares about himself while she was the only nurturing and loving parent. Then she even commented that he was in a good mood the following day which was telling... as if most days he wasn’t in a good mood.
    So many blogs with astounding revelations that the jurors should hear.

    I agree with others that he used a drum but I really think he dug a super deep hole and used cement etc. as he had the trucks tools to bury her. He could’ve been digging far in advance on the Sturbridge or one of the Farmington properties without anyone batting an eyelash as they’re construction sites. Privacy and opportunity.

    I think if it was buried deep enough in the dense woods on the property that the dogs wouldn’t be able to detect a scent. I am sure he would know how to cover it will soil, sod and greenery etc. so it didn’t look like it was freshly overturned. He may have even sprayed water so any scents were masked by the scent of soil etc.

    Perhaps he used a wheel barrel to wheel the drum and that’s what made the metal banging noise. Then he covered the track carefully.

    I apologize for being all over the place but I’m trying hard to keep the faith but worried about this case and these monsters.
     
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  17. Twistinginthewind

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    They're in the spotlight that they seem to enjoy, and think it's just the usual paparazzi IMO, smile for the camera media circus, why not pose for a photo op??

    They both, mother and daughter, have experienced and probably enjoyed media attention in the past around any situation.

    MT is billed as a "CEO" and "socialite" in some headlines from her work at the Fore Group in CT, and prior to that, her time in FL when she and her sister started their own company selling Seal boots, before that she was in Dubai, Argentina, etc. working in promotion type high end organizations or corporations or interests. ETA: Plenty of photographs of MT posed with 'high profile' people.

    MT's mother was tried for medicare fraud in her practice, also in FL so many years ago when MT & her sister were also in FL starting up and promoting their business (specialty footware for staying dry when walking in wet environs), but IIRC wasn't found guilty. (ETA: will look for a link, it was in the first couple threads).

    IMO, MT & her mother smiling like that after a hearing where MT was facing serious criminal charges, no matter how simple the interaction was to continue the case, was partly 1) them being used to 'smiling for the camera' regardless of the seriousness of the situation, and 2) they are confident that MT is in the clear, and it will all blow over.

    MOO
     
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    I am beginning to suffer from those things just reading about him and I cannot imagine how miserable and terrified JD was . Especially having to try to keep things normal for the children while trying to shield them from FD’ s hatred and cruelty, constant belittling and undermining of her. Then to have him drag in his mistress and her daughter on top of everything else. And have to secretly plan the escape from him because of his threats of harm. And most horrible when the court denied her emergency request for full custody of the children. It makes you want to just sit down and cry but JD sure didn’t have time for self pity - she kept going and taking care of her children and being the best mother she could- all by herself. (MOO)
     
  19. MemPat

    MemPat Without Art the Earth is just Eh!

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    It hurts my heart that Jennifer's story is so common in our society where many women sacrifice their own mental health and safety to hold a traditional family together for their children.

    Arrogant and entitled men demean them as they flaunt their mistresses.

    How distressing that a woman of means like Jennifer couldn't escape the nightmare of a narcissist.

    Imagine how it is for someone poor or middle class.

    God bless them all and may Jennifer be a warning to many.
     
  20. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    Don't disagree with you but over the years FD did build houses for people in Farmington and Avon using a build to suit contract model (FORE started in 2004 and on their website most of the projects and project type are listed and its a mix of build to suit and spec). More than a few of these people that did build to suit have left reviews that were less than positive about the experience of working with FORE.

    The bulk of the homes in present FORE inventory (Farmington and NC) are 'spec homes' as you correctly point out. But I do believe FORE has an Avon Property listed as both land for sale and build to suit on its webpage (585 Deercliff 585 Deercliff Road - Fore Group Inc.) which I believe is where FD/JD lived previously and where FD mother was run over by nanny in the driveway.

    There has to be some reason that FD felt compelled to continue to build these 'white elephant' properties in Farmington when the market clearly doesn't support their size and price IMO. I hope that the forensic accountants brought in as part of the criminal investigation sort the situation out as it doesn't seem to make any business sense on the surface of things given the state of the housing market in Farmington specifically and CT in general. MOO
     
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