Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #8 *ARRESTS*

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  1. indicolite22

    indicolite22 Well-Known Member

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    If you were planning a crime, you would take precautions not to leave any of your DNA behind. Accidentally leaving some on your previous visit would spoil that.
     
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  2. indicolite22

    indicolite22 Well-Known Member

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    What is the source for that time frame of the phone call to her friend? I haven't seen it reported. That time frame doesn't jive with theories that JD was attacked when she returned home from the school run. Couldn't the call have happened much earlier?
     
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    The Saint Well-Known Member

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    Fotis owed something like $1.5 million dollars to his wife's parents. They were in litigation for the past few years. If JD's dad died of cancer then that's one thing. The death of Fotis' mother is a different matter. It sounds highly suspect, especially in light of JD's disappearance/murder.
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    That doesn't explain why he was there and why he apparently went through so much trouble to cover his tracks before he went.

    If he had just gone there to threaten her or "talk some sense" into her he would not have switched trucks and then switched license plates in order to do so.

    He never intended to leave a live person, IMO because 1) otherwise she could just call police or her lawyer and state he was there and what he did or said, and he would know that, and; 2) Unless she was attacked in an ambush, the very moment she saw him she would be calling 911. Not having a nice chat with him until he got angry and attacked.

    He moved her body the same reason scott Peterson, drew Peterson, chris watts, josh Powell, and every other murderer does so: They don't want anything to be found on the body that can be traced to them, like DNA, and/or they want to pretend their victim was kidnapped or disappeared on their own.
     
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    But the whole point is that Fotis was supposed not to have known where his wife and kids were living , much less his having been inside the residence.
     
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  6. indicolite22

    indicolite22 Well-Known Member

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    BBM. Do you have a source for that? I don't think that was the case, since he was there legitimately two days before.
     
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    4am ramblings. Were all of FD and JD cars black? Maybe FD picked employees truck to use because of it's color Red. Pretty attention getting color. Maybe if anyone or LE had noticed truck it would lead back to employee and not FD?
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    So someone would have had to bring him his truck. It was the park close enough he could have walked?
     
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    I thought I had read more than once that Fotis was not supposed to know the location of where the family was living. I could be wrong.
     
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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Ah. Three miles. Ok. That's an easy run, actually. It would take me about 40 minutes, I think. And he's a runner.
     
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    He knew - at the hearing the prosecutor indicated he did not go in the house - he was there 5/22 link to this is on the media thread
     
  12. JillR

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    I met a 77 yr old Greek woman who was so delightful and didn’t look or seem a day over 50. I never mentioned this case.

    I have revelations. She told me all about her life and I learned that in Greek culture 99.9% name their 1st son after the fathers father and their 1st daughter after the fathers mother. She also mentioned that NAME DAY is a big deal/celebrated just like a birthday... WAIT FOR IT...... The Dulos’ have name days in May.... one of the children’s name day was ON/day before THE BBQ day AND ON 5-24 (FD has 2 name days and one of them is 5-24) If this is true, FD disrespected his mother and didn’t give his ELDEST daughter her name AND that explains the BBQ celebration and “daddy” being there and we know murderers love to play games with dates of significance.. Also, I searched and JD said in a blog her male child with the name beginning with P was her eldest son (twin born 1st) I wonder if this is in fact FD fathers name.....

    Greek Name Day Calendar
     
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    If in good shape he could run an 8min mile. Plus his adrenaline rush could of kicked in.
     
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    Is this ok to post here ? I saw it on another site

    those websleuths are pretty impressive...

    —Anonymous
     
  15. Curious in CT

    Curious in CT Truth is stranger than fiction

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    Fotis' dad was Petros, right? (Is it ok to say that?)
     
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  16. JillR

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    Yes. Just stating a fact. So, he DID respect and honor the tradition with his father.
     
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    CarefullyTaught Hope is the thing with feathers -

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    IMO/MOO:

    All over the metaphorical map here — in advance, my apologies:

    I don’t think this murder/hit job is FD’s first. This might not have been even his first attempt to murder JD.

    Recall that ~two months before FD’s mom KD was accidentally run over by the nanny EN in 2010, reportedly KD sustained severe (but oops not fatal) injuries in a staircase fall. It is clear that Granny Dulos’s death (sorry y’all, I’m a grammar floozy) was not investigated very timely, critically, or thoroughly. Unknown what, if any, investigation of the prior staircase incident occurred.

    Unknown at this time is whether FD or any of his corporate personas, alter (altar) egos, or assigns quietly filed or recovered a claim against himself, FORE Group, medical providers, or his homeowners or renters insurance policy, travel or trip insurance, or other type of insurance fraud related to what in retrospect very well may have been an initial failed attempt to take his mother’s life. FD probably learned a bit about alibi improvement and beneficial chaos and staging from the various attempts on his mother’s life. The last one was of course successful as viewed from his sociopathy. Likely he cashed in on the 2010 death. (I hope EN has protection and/or has been in hiding, if she hasn’t already been neutralized. She could have been that phone call from Greece. Doubtful, but who knows?)

    With all our new school tech, we sometimes forget about old school. Walkie talkies aren’t unheard of in construction or for folks who might want to communicate live in some manner with less of a, so to speak, footprint.

    The dirt bike/motocross theory is a real possibility. Off-road quite literally. SM photos of MT and her tween with such bikes. Toy Boy also likes toys. *Obviously.*

    In Bridge, I was taught you play back based on your partner’s lead. FD tried to preempt and undermine JD’s pleading to the court for protection from and fear of FD. FD reportedly claimed that JD had threatened to hire a Mafia hit man to break his ?legs? ?knees? with a baseball bat. The court didn’t buy it.
    But the murder weapon FD (or his hire) used to incapacitate JD initially might well have been a baseball bat. Knife would be too likely to accidentally cut himself if this hit was a DIY project for Selfie-Made Man. It’s possible JD was in very bad shape but technically not yet dead when FD (or his sub) re/moved JD from the garage. Bloody clothes may have been because the kids left with the nanny for NYC directly after the 1/2 day of school. They’d have backpacks but not overnight clothes toiletries etc for 5+1. Jennifer may have been loading up the suburban when she got ambushed. The totes may have been all she had to fight back with or throw at her assailant or block with, so the clothes would be bloody. FD or his hire wouldn’t have anticipated this because FD isn’t thoughtful and likely never packed anything for anyone — Jennifer was his donkey; a role reversal to be sure, given he was such a jack@ss.

    Cleaning lady must not have been very thorough if JD’s blood was inside JD’s house on a faucet mixed with FD’s DNA. It would seem either Cleaning lady didn’t enter the house that day or FD returned for more crime scene clean up after cleaning lady left. I agree with upthread poster who implied Cleaning lady might easily have wound up dead with only slight time or location pivots. Bullet dodged. It’s likely JD was probably already dead or almost dead by then, so had Cleaning lady arrived slightly earlier and not been killed upon entry, she might have messed up the forensics more than she could have helped. Likely we may never know.

    FORE Gloop — sorry Group! — reportedly worked on or completed many projects apart from the properties most often discussed on this thread. One is located on Block Island, R.I. There’s also several others you can view on FORE’s website. The photography is slick but the writing is atrocious. I’m thinking it’s the work of FD or MT, as JD was so much better than that. It’s just awful. More evidence of FD’s chokehold on everything IMO.

    Side piece MT still has her own income stream presumably. Recall her lickity split bonding out of jail?

    Back in ?2013? Or maybe it was before that, Olympic ski champion baby daddy acknowledged paternity of MT’s child and agreed to front her like $24K plus $200K to get an apt in Miami and agreed to pay MT $4K/mo for the child support of the one kid. I suspect that amount may has risen over the years, plus I’m guessing the baby daddy was/is paying for the child’s private school tuition and snow ski training, lodging, vacations, travel, coparenting across countries.

    Unlike FD’s kids, MT’s kid looks like she genuinely loves competitive skiing and has a great close relationship with her father. I’m not aiming to sleuth anyone’s kids, all these kids are victims as is Olympic baby daddy; but among all the vanity awards for crappy homebuilding (“best mudroom”!) plastered all over the FORE group website, there’s one action photo of MT’s daughter catching air on the slopes and one of a FD son looking painfully miserable catching spray during some waterskiing championship. The kids names — full names — are used on the FORE website as well as their photos, the family home home office address and FD’s phone number. IIRC it may even mention the name of the school MT’s kid attends — so much for Protecting The Gift. (Also ironic if the Dulos bracelet in court on MT’s wrist was cropped out of the photo to protect her daughter’s privacy as the kid’s name was reportedly on one of the beads, but then there’s basically the tween’s resume on the shameless FORE Group brag crapsite.

    Glossy but vacuous, which seems fitting.

    So, among the possible frames/spins FD had hoped folks might go for when JD went missing might be that JD arranged to stage her own murder and/or abduction in order to disappear to frame him, that MT killed JD out of jealousy or twisted love, that JD was trying to take out a hit on FD but it backfired, that MT’s kid did it bc she was troubled or envious or whatever (which would seem completely out there but if the thought was basically no peril for a troubled child theory trotted out to save FD and just ship the kid back to her real dad to protect her and throw some shade enough to create reasonable doubt), or else Colonel Mustard in the drawing room with the lead pipe.

    The FORE Group website includes testimonials about, inter alia, the complexity of the Block Island job and how FD was great at off shore staging, little zoning miracles and environmental variances, and related garbage. So for those going with a remote location theory, I’d say that Block Island bay or Newark or a shipping container back to Greece might be a good place to start. How about old wells?

    It’s also been mentioned FD liked to fly planes. And though we’ve not yet seen any documentation that FD owned any boats in Ct under his name, that seems unlikely as well as probably irrelevant, given his long pattern of zero concern for acquiring or exploiting others’s (see?) goods, with or without their knowledge and/or permission.

    FD would want JD’s purse if he could get his hands on it, safe deposit key/s, diary, computer, works in progress, any hidden or helpful documents.

    Another pearl on the FORE play site mentions all FD projects meet or exceed 10 ft foundations. All it takes is a few friends in cement or waste management to take care of this whole thing. Well, not *friends* exactly. But, you know, people who’d rather not be bothered with a bunch of paperwork or details. They don’t need to know these things.

    Before it’s all over, we may find this case involves more than one body nevertheless. Didn’t NP basically foreshadow this last week? Somewhere in Ct there’s probably going to be a body that has a story to tell but that story has nothing to do with my adorable law clerk or these two lovebirds?

    Pre-nup or post-nup? Likely a forged document or two will be offered up at some point, no doubt fabricated, and hopefully with FD/MT’s signature horrific editing.

    Any hog farms or sewage lakes in the area? Good places for disposing of stuff, although in a pinch maybe just a FedEx box.

    I hope the Feds are running a parallel investigation on FD for tax evasion, mortgage fraud, bank fraud, insurance fraud, etc.

    Shaving his head may have been to mimic his stunt double, though I heard he and Medusa pull their own stunts (will this be a split personality defense?). I’ll go with decoy or DNA mitigation goal. But I wonder if he noticed the SEAL sheer makes him look more hairline compromised, which I can’t imagine he will like, so he must get back out there on the skis or the trails again for another jog or two, grow his hair back in, or get on with the cap. It’s a missing persons/homicide investigation not a beauty pageant, I know, but I bet they’re already in casting and development discussions with someone and having his girl call their girl and they’ll do lunch. He probably thinks this song is about him. They’re so vain.

    It would be ironic but angelic if FD’s guys don’t swim. I was/am so hoping this was a donor sperm fertility situation so that the kids won’t have any biological stigma on top of all of the other pain they are having to deal with and will have to deal with, so unfairly, forever. It’s the worst. How does anyone survive this?

    Odds on Medusa being pregnant; anyone? I used to watch a lot of Y&R back in the day and this MT strikes me as a Sheila kind of character, much as he is a plastic fishing lure that has the glitter embedded in it. Each in its own way charmingly fake and parasitic. I hope that if JD & FD had any zygotes still banked, that neither FD nor MT ever get their hands on her kids potential siblings for any purpose, assuming they haven’t already gone for it.

    I just want to vomit.

    This whole thing is so sad. Prayers for the family. Let the truth out.

    Please let FD slip up much more, not to kill again, but to reveal himself and to be betrayed by his fellow serpents or unwilling conspirators. Let someone they snuffed have left a detailed roadmap, timeline, photos, call log, bank records, phone numbers, a witness trail.

    Please let someone soon find Jennifer. Please let FD come undone.

    IMO/MOO
     
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    Yes. Stating a fact. So, FD did respect his father and the tradition but not his mother, it would seem.
     
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    Welles Lane is also a cul de sac. Not likely a jogger would cut up it then turn around and go back down. I think a jogger on that street, if seen, would be unusual.
     
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    From a new Hartford Courant article - on the time frame of the attack:
    and on MT's alibi:
    The events of May 24, the last day Jennifer Farber Dulos was seen alive, are a key element of the investigation into her disappearance

    Edit: typos
     
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