Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by doodles1211, May 26, 2019.
UGH. Awful. Just awful. MOO.
Ok. Will go back and listen again. But how can Albany be defined as an anomaly? Your client and accomplice were viewed in HD on CCTV with bags and were disposing of items on Albany. This wasn't household waste that they didn't want in their house over the long weekend either as the warrant said blood was seen on the bags. Don't understand the use of this word anomaly (usually means deviation from a common rule, arrangement or form) at all. I could see inexplicable but not anomaly.
The 2 major pieces from the arrest warrant are 1) violent act in the garage at Welles and blood spatter with clean up and 2) FO and MT on Albany with the bags. I would add 3) 2 hrs at MS (my guess is dismembering the body but we have no info on this yet so its pure speculation). 1 and 2 are fact based from arrest warrant. MOO
Went back again and watched it and read article again.
I'm getting tripped up in the word anomaly. This to me would imply that Pattis has a timeline into which Albany doesn't fit. Perhaps they are going to claim its someone else and not FO and MT on Albany? IDK.
But I don't understand how Pattis can claim anomaly on Albany unless he has an alternative theory for FD/MT location during that time period when their phones pinged over the 4 mile stretch. Are they going to claim that they both gave their phones to someone and that someone needed to get rid of items in the black bags that just happened to have JD blood on them? Oh, and the 2 people on Albany were body doubles for FO and MT? Oh, and a bloody knife that was found possibly with JD blood on it on Albany route was placed there by this someone else and ditto for the VV shirt and bra? Just not seeing it but I'm open to ideas!!!
This would make zero sense IMO.
He has no explanation because there is no explanation.
altered license plate
bloody bra, sponges, mops.
On camera, in his vehicle, with his girlfriend.
This isn't much of a whodunit.
Albany is not an anomaly, its the story.
Its 'opposite day' in Pattisville! Got it.
Anomaly=Word Salad coming from the mouth of a Narc. Code for: My client didn't think he'd be caught on Albany Ave and now we've got a problem. Anomaly definition: something that deviates from what is standard, normal, or expected. You are getting tripped up on that word because it's usage is not really correct here. The only anomaly is in the mind of FD who did not expect to be caught on camera.
I am with you. It's not in the audio. They left that out. It's in the article.
I think he is just blowing smoke. MOO.
Smoke and mirrors!
Yep, I'll take your Alternative Facts but raise you to FAKE NEWS!
Wild times in Pattisville!
3 months since JD went missing. Hope this week brings us some answers!
Thanks for all the help on anomaly. I really do try to understand what Pattis is saying but I kept reading and simply couldn't see that word in that sentence given the fact pattern and timeline as we generally understand them to be.
I guess a true anomaly in this case would be something truthful from Pattis!
FAKE NEWS!!! Love it!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
See how he dances around a cohesive narrative, though? "We believe it is not physically possible" to prove FD could murder Jennifer (in some unspecified time frame). "I have a good idea" what certain evidence is going to prove. Deliberately vague language is his dance.
He also claims some unspecified "records" are going to expose a blockbuster, deep dark, secret, but never, ever says what that secret is. Is he now back to claiming revenge suicide? Is he now again implying that Jennifer voluntarily left her children, as if SHE is somehow the one who has orchestrated this entire nightmare? What an absolute mess of an interview, what a mess of a narrative.
FD must be getting angry that he is not viewed as the victim, so it is back to NP blaming JD for her own murder, and making generalized claims that the State cannot "prove" FD's guilt, without ever discussing a single fact that exonerates his client. He is sowing doubt, not establishing innocence.
Again, no defendant is obligated to prove their innocence in a criminal trial. The burden of proof always rests with the State. IME, however, there has to be some explanation for how the State got it wrong. Now, this can be accomplished without the defendant ever taking the stand, as happened in Micheal Jackson, OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony, primarily through cross-examination of the State's own witnesses.
High profile prosecutions can go very, very wrong, IMO because of all of the publicity surrounding them, so NP is following a well-worn playbook of publicly casting doubt on the State's evidence. He is not, however, even attempting to pretend either he or his client care about what actually happened to Jennifer. How very telling is his indifference to her well-being! NP knows Jennifer is dead, and has abandoned any pretense of concern for her. She is once again "the enemy".
I hope the jurors who ultimately decide this case will follow the jury instruction, given in most states, to not confuse generalized speculation with reasonable doubt. NP is working overtime to keep the speculation front and center because that is all he has to work with.
NP is supposed to be OUT of the family case, it is thought because he had admitted to using a draft "confidential" memo, which I believe is being claimed to have been stolen form the GAL, or otherwise unlawfully possessed? NP is injecting himself into an area he removed himself from for a reason! I would normally suggest that he should tread lightly, but I do not think he believes the rules apply to him.
As FD presses to drag the 13 year olds into the fray, factors that hopefully the judge considers, in an article on the public health implications of childhood loss in today’s NYT:
“A child’s response to major loss depends on several factors, including the cause of death, the closeness of the relationship and the child’s developmental stage. Very young children may not yet understand what death means. They’ll come to that awareness later, as their intellect matures. Tweenagers may grasp the concept cognitively but don’t yet have the emotional maturity to manage the feelings that arise. They’ll have to attend to those later. Teenagers have to balance the typical tasks of adolescence with the extraordinary demands of mourning. If overwhelmed by both, they may push one aside for a while, only to revisit it 10 years down the road. Or 20. Or more. This is how childhood grief becomes protracted over a lifetime.
Most of all, early, major loss can derail a life narrative and shatter a child’s sense of safety and assumptions about the future. As Anderson Cooper shared, his father’s death “changed the trajectory of my life. I am a different person than I feel like I was meant to be.”
Opinion | I Couldn’t Say ‘My Mother’ Without Crying
From Sleuth66's post above:
Tweenagers may grasp the concept cognitively but don’t yet have the emotional maturity to manage the feelings that arise. They’ll have to attend to those later. Teenagers have to balance the typical tasks of adolescence with the extraordinary demands of mourning. If overwhelmed by both, they may push one aside for a while, only to revisit it 10 years down the road. Or 20. Or more. This is how childhood grief becomes protracted over a lifetime.
The portion bolded is absolutely my fear. Too often I've witnessed teenagers refuse counseling following a major loss. IMO, this behavior can cause problems which the kids won't/can't address. They want to continue to live as they lived and won't discuss the loss even with their closest friends. And, friends are usually not equipped to help them mourn anyway.
FD's lament that he has suffered the most is hideous.
It's going to take a village to lift these kids up and help them navigate their lives. NP's public suggestions that their mother left them and framed their father is absolutely unconscionable. I can only hope the judge has the means and ability to gag the idjiot. MOO....
P.S. Thank you so much for finding this article. It confirms what I've seen professionally and observed in other children I've known and with whom I've worked.
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Silver Alert - CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #19