Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #36

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  1. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    MT made a complete mockery of her deposition in the civil suit against FD and her AW doesn't win her any prizes in clear or honest communication either.

    While I'd like as much ammunition as possible to convict FD for JD's murder, I think the DA would really struggle to make MT appear credible -- plus jury will hate her! I'm hoping KM has the most bargain with and lays all his cards down without delay. MOO
     


  2. RoosterRock

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    Excellent points about court inaction and especially with regard to letting him get off for 2 years without paying a dime for 5 children. That is insane he should have been required to pay a minimum monthly at least $2,000 until the finances were resolved not zero. Really what kind of intelligent judge doesn't impose at least that? She just did not care to assist JD the primary caregiver because she had means. Insanity in the family courts in CT....
     
  3. sleuth66

    sleuth66 Well-Known Member

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    On June 23rd, the day after it was announced that the search at MIRA had ended, FD set off his GPS when he was out driving on Silver Spring Rd which runs between NC and Wilton, and which briefly crosses the state line into NY (but there isn't a sign).
    Even before this happened, I had pegged Silver Spring Rd as a place to dispose of a body within reach of Welles Ln, because it is so remote and wooded, which although there's a lot of woods in this area, is still unique because it is much less suburban and still undeveloped back there. Silver Spring Rd. gets really rough in the stretch before the Wilton line (where the pavement abruptly changes and smooths out) and so there is little to no traffic back there. There is also a branch (East St) that crosses Browns Reservoir. (The reservoir isn't always full at the crossing, sometimes the water is low and muddy flats at the road level.)

    BUT: this would be a place where one could go and dig a grave and not be seen, most especially if at night. It is a big expanse and it would be hard to figure out without clues where such a grave might be. He could have easily done what KM did back there and it would not be noticed, especially in May when all the leaves are out. Whether or not he put her there, he might have gone back once he felt relieved they didn't find anything at MIRA, and covered up anything or checked on things.

    AND: way earlier in the thread back in September when they released the info that FD had travelled back there, someone did the drive from Waveny and it more or less fit the time points exactly. (I think it was 18 minutes RT from Waveny, which added to the Welles-Waveny trip and the little piece on the Merritt to NC rest stop added up to 47 minutes).
    SO: It is possible that FD was attempting to distract or mislead with his little foray out there setting off his anklet just after LE finished searching at MIRA. (When one is wearing an ankle bracelet, you would think you would be careful where you went, but we see FD is very stupid.)
    But now we see that KM dug a grave in a remote place, and went back to it (on 5/31 at 11pm) to revisit/patch over the site once LE got heated up (think of the stress for KM on the 31st during the Albany investigation on the news).
    The problem is, I don't think you could do a blind search out on Silver Spring if you didn't have some clue where to look, there would be too many places to look. I don't know if LE did ever search there once they found out that's where he went when he set off his GPS. We never heard about them searching the gun club property but now we know they did, so perhaps they checked it out and the media didn't catch wind.
     
  4. Twistinginthewind

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    Poor MT-- whatever the triggers may be that sent her to the hospital from the courthouse when she was released after posting bail because she's 'not well', I'll hazard a guess that she's suffering from the consequences of reality at being back in jail on charges related to JFd's disappearance for the 3rd time in 7 months, and her comeuppance that conspiracy to commit murder charges are serious 'bidi'ness.

    I'm surprised about the quick bailing out & release from jail, and wish there was more LE could hold her on indefinitely, but I think there is enough evidence against her that isn't dismissable from the 3 AWs, that her next court date in February is going to be the 1st time they're going to really let her have it, and she's going to cave under pressure and rat out FD, since their fantasy of getting back together after eliminating JFd didn't work out, and so she doesn't have to go to prison forever.

    I think that's why she's been holding out thus far -- cuz she, her atty and family were just waiting to see how bad it was going to get before pulling the rabbit out of the hat and copping a plea. IMO

    ETA: I think KM is in "a world of hurt", MT is getting there, and they're beginning to realize they were FD's dupes, as he skates along and attempts to 'rise above' the heinous charges against him and 'get on with his life' and cares not a bit about their fates, and is all smug about being 'back home' toot suite and complaining to LE about press in his neighborhood once again... :rolleyes:
     
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  5. 5CentsWorth

    5CentsWorth The Proof is in the Pudding

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    What if he didn’t bury her at all? I remember the Summer Inman murder.
     
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  6. Twistinginthewind

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    I agree, there are almost too many alternatives to contemplate, and, IMO, FD had multiple possibilities set up for disposing of her remains just to hedge his bets and have a menu of available options -- he had access to nearby construction sites, homes he was in the process of developing, incinerators, thick woods, water bodies, etc., and picked one when all was said and done, where he's confident JFd's body and/or her remains and/or DNA will never be found. MOO
     
  7. BellaVita

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    Bail companies can take a 35% down payment and the defendant has 15 months to pay off the rest.
     
  8. BellaVita

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    Anything can happen with joint accounts. Whatever size the check is for, all rules are the same except for how long it takes a check to clear. Check doesn't even have to be signed. Just write For Deposit Only and account number on the back. Once it's in joint account, it's fair game for either signer to do what they wish. There are no restrictions on joint accounts. This is not the bank's problem or the court's problem. This is a Midler problem. IMO.
     
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  9. Mimi in London

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    Good close-ups. MT’s mama and sis seem to have have lost their Showbiz-pizzazz. I wonder why.

    And what’s the story with FT’s concealed right hand? Why is he wearing a plastic bag over it? Does he want us to think he’s carrying a package wrapped in plastic? Check out the bit where he does up his jacket button with his left hand.
     
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  10. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    I'm with you 100% on this as a possible location. It seems that it might make sense for Fd to head north from the JFd house on Welles. Where it gets tricky is AW2 and 3 said that Fd in JFd Suburban headed west leaving Welles and the phone tracked back to Lapham and then there is the "gap time" before Fd is seen in the Tacoma heading north on the Merritt with what looks to be a bike in the bed of the Tacoma. The Suburban we know was left on Lapham with the running lights on.

    What happened during the "gap time" from 10:25 am - 11:12 am in NC?

    The AW3 says that JFd was zip tied at Welles and presumably in the far rear of the Suburban on the liner.

    Did JFd leave Welles alive or dead? Was the 'gap time' in NC used to murder JFd in the Suburban? Or was the 'gap time' in NC used to transfer the body and all the clean up materials to the Tacoma?

    I was the one that did the drive to Brown's way back when and I agree that for the NC area, its quite remote with little traffic.

    Gray Hughes second video on the most recent AW3 has him going back to something he did originally in the Dulos case which I found quite helpful to visualise Fd options in NC for body disposal. He used Google Earth to draw a rough area that Fd could have driven during the "gap period" between leaving 69/71 Welles, being seen on Lapham Rd, and finally being seen heading north in EE Truck on the Merritt heading back to Farmington.

    Here is the AW3 slightly modified version of the 'gap time' available to Fd in NC.

    Interesting that AW3 makes mention of possible sight of bike wheel in the bed of the Tacoma as Fd is heading back to Farmington. AW3 makes no mention of a body being visible in the Tacoma truck bed. Could the JFd body have been in passenger seat of the Tacoma and that was what Fd and MT were cleaning up at 80 MS?

    What is still unclear is whether the 'gap time' in NC was used for disposal of a body into a predug grave or whether the time spent was used to transfer the JFd body from the Suburban where it appears she was zip tied into the Tacoma or was it used to murder JFd in the Suburban where she was zip tied? I'm sure other possibilities exist too for this timeline.

    Did Fd put a zip tied JFd into the passenger seat of the Tacoma or did he bury her someplace in/around NC?

    The AW2 and 3 stated that the JFd phone traveled from Welles to Lapham and is less clear about the route of that the JFd Suburban traveled to get back to Lapham. IMO given the age of the Suburban its likely that OnStar gave LE the exact path that the vehicle traveled.

    The Suburban is seen leaving Welles at 10:25 am and the time the Suburban reached Lapham is not disclosed in AW3. Fd is not seen again in the AW2&3 until 11:12 am on the Northbound Merritt when Fd is in the Tacoma. I'm curious what others think about the AW language as I'm not 100% certain that the Suburban did travel directly from Welles to Lapham.

    What happened between 10:25 am and 11:12 am? I believe Lindy Urso (EE Atty) speculated in an interview early in this case, that the JFd body was buried in NC area. Was the 'gap time' in NC spent burying a body or moving a body between 2 vehicles so that the body could be buried in Farmington area?

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    MOO
     
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  11. Mimi in London

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    That pair doesn’t strike me as being penny-pinchers. On the contrary, squandering JFd’s money to get people to do their dirty work, would be routine. If they did previous dump runs they had something to hide, IMO.
     
  12. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    Yes, it was probably items that the dump wouldn't accept or made them pay to dispose of IMO. Fd had multiple houses in Farmington where there is Town trash pickup. This issue was explored in an earlier thread. NC has a very complete Transfer station that Fd would have had access to as well given that he owned property in NC.
     
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    Yes, Urso says the answer to where JD is, is in NC. I tend to believe that and accounts for the time gap.
     
  14. Midwestmom2019

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    Edited to add: yes, generally speaking you are absolutely correct. Courts attempt to maintain parent child relationships for the benefit of the CHILD. It’s for the “best interest of the child” standard.

    She had not enforced any Orders by contempt, sanctions or jail time. Tools provided to her to keep her courtroom dignified. She allowed FD to become emboldened. Her pattern is much like a parent who does not enforce discipline at home but expects teachers to maintain discipline at school. Then wonders what went wrong as they turn into delinquents and criminals.
    Sure, FD was ultimately the killer. Had she acted, the divorce would have moved forward, with FD forced to comply with disclosure of financial information and child support and custody issues being resolved. Instead, he got away with flaunting his utter contempt of the judicial system in multiple courts, and almost got away with murder.
    Sorry, the judges are all wimps, disgusting in their lack of control and being part of the good ole boys. Yes, as someone mentioned, a Special Prosecutor needs to be appointed to oversee an overhaul of CT politics. No wonder people leave the state in droves.
    Sometimes bulldozing and starting over is better than remodeling. Unfortunately, I don’t think it applies in all cases. Even FD knew that process.
     
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    Not verified but need to add, yes, you are absolutely correct in portraying what really happens in every day family law court.
    IT DOES NOT MAKE IT OK.
    The entire system needs to be overhauled so that non compliance is stopped. And putting more of the non complying parties in jail works.
    I’d ask three questions: were you ordered to pay child support? Did you pay child support? What color toothbrush would you like? I have a drawer full to choose your favorite color.
    It has always amazed me how quickly the non paying client finds money to pay me to represent them and if jailed, the back child support.
    Just ask any parent who is not receiving child support, or compliance with other court orders. I’ve been on the no receiving end. I’ve been on the representing dead beat parents end. Guess which side I’m on.
     
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    benzo hell, as it is commonly referred to by those who have been through it. 30 years ago i found out by living it. no fun at all. and for those that don't know, zolpidem [ambien] should be used infrequently at best cause it can make sleep difficult if you stop after using longer than 4 or 5 days. if she had been using ambien recently she probably had a few rough nights in lockup. pity.
     
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    Yes, that smirk and his perfectly quaffed hair. That buzz cut that he had when he was arrested speaks volumes too. He likely hated the way he looked back then...scary as ever, but he didn't want his hair to be all over the garage. Monster.
     
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    To play the devils advocare here she could have been in withdrawal from a antidepressant. I know we all speculate it is something that has a stigma or she is illegally using drugs but it may not be. Time my old coworker would get sick if she missed hers within a few hours.
     
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    I have been wondering what those checks were for too. I was a bank manager for many years. The check should not have been accepted for deposit without proper endorsements (signature is both FD and JD). If FD forged her signature then he would be guilty of forgery.[/QUOTE]
    If they were deposited in a joint account that bears both payees a simple for deposit only endorsement would be acceptable at any bank I have had an account. I have done that for years when my husband was not available to sign them. Then again I have not ever done it with checks that were of that amount so I wouldnt be surprised if the requirements were different.
     
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