Discussion in '2010's Missing' started by doodles1211, May 26, 2019.
FST-FA17-5016797-S - DULOS,JENNIFER v. DULOS,FOTIS
544.00 01/31/2020 D NOTICE
SUGGESTION OF DEATH
I disagree. Not everyone chooses a gun, who wants to off themselves. What FD did was pretty effective. He knew he had at least an hour in that garage (he had to hurry to block the ventilation and he probably already had the hose ready).
Thing is, most successful suicides contemplate which plan is best for them and which plan they are most likely to be able to complete. Many a person finds they can't actually pull the trigger. Some imagine the noise of it (or the disfigurement of their faces) and simply can't do it. So they choose another way. Every psychiatrist knows this and knows that the successful method chosen is rarely discussed honestly with the therapist.
People who are less determined to kill themselves often choose methods and make plans that, by their very nature, make it way less likely that they'll even try.
Successful suicides are sometimes the same method, but on multiple attempts. Jumping off a bridge would be more certain, but FD (whose guns had been taken away, his homes searched, etc) was afraid he'd trigger a response with his ankle bracelet. It had to be something he could do "at home." He was staying in that house so that he could work himself up to do it, as he knew it would be necessary to avoid prison (at some point). He rightfully thought that he would have gone to jail this week and probably never gotten out again...
Just because pills and gas are less successful than guns (which, btw, are not always successful - and those are sad cases indeed), does not mean that thousands do not use those methods successfully. Gas from an automobile might actually have way more appeal for a certain kind of methodical person than a shotgun blast or the uncertainty of using a pistol.
If this was relatively impulsive, then where would he have gotten a gun?
I think NP collected in advance (took a retainer from FD) and will now be asked by the estate to account for his billed hours. Then, if the Estate is smart, they'll ask a judge whether NP's charges are "reasonable." I suspect that a judge will ban any hours billed after Tuesday and that NP is devastated by that. Plus he's already spent the money that FD gave him and...might have to pay some of it back.
MOO. But I'd make a modest wager that this is true.
Bonus Round: I am guessing AC is the Executor, so...we shall see. I could be wrong about all of this.
My son’s wife left him for his best friend who was a wealthy owner of a business that was married with a little girl. When that happened his wife sued him for divorce and child support. They also owned a 1000 acre farm here in SC. On paper he broke his company to almost broke and also used the equity line at farm and milked it for over a million. The courts granted her a divorce based on adultery with her receiving family home and 40%, 6 years of alimony plus child support. Trouble is 40% of zero is zero. While this was all going on, my son’s then ex-wife changed her legal address to another neighboring state where it is believed the boyfriend put money siphoned from estate/farm in a bank. Fotis probably did the same thing.
So excited to announce that my Child Safety First Bill is moving forward!! Thanks to everyone who reached out to legislators. There will be a public hearing in the next month or so and I hope you come to Hartford and make your voice heard!! #justiceforjennifer
You are only assigned counsel if you are indigent and unable to fund your own defense. Was there a declaration of that for FD? I have a hard time believing the state is going to foot the bill for someone who makes $500,000 bail?
Some paperwork said that he had gotten shut off notices. We don't know if it was shut off. Apparently, you have to apply for hardship cases to not get power shut off (Winter Protection / Winter Moratorium - United Way of Connecticut - 211 and eLibrary - Energy Assistance/Utilities) so he would have had to contact the CT Dept. of Public Utilities.
Who Is Eligible? (any ONE of the following situations)
Customers who lack the resources to pay the bill and who receive city, state or federal financial assistance, and/or Medicaid.
Customers whose sole source of income is Social Security, Veterans Administration, OR Unemployment Comp.
Customers who are head of household and unemployed if the household income during the preceding 12 months was less than 300% FPL (children’s income is not counted, nor is the income of anyone in the house who has been there less than 6 months.)
Customers who are seriously ill or who have a household member who is seriously ill
Customers whose income is below 60% of state median income.
Customers whose circumstances threaten deprivation of food and necessities of life if payment of a delinquent bill is required.
Some companies will code customer “hardship” if they receive any energy assistance payment (private or public.)
Thank you for saying this! My mother's overdose worked quite effectively and efficiently. The method used does not matter or make one suicide more legit than another. My mom used what was available to her not because she was faking it...
100% on the money. It's easy to blame the victim/survivor but if you have not personally experienced it, most people have no clue. Nobody can say anything bad about Jennifer and yet, she fell for it. She trusted. FD is 100% at fault. WARNING: If anybody thinks it would never happen to them, think again. IME.
From my past social services positions, most companies will not shut off if there is payment arrangements . If ppl do not honor those arrangements, service could be shut off. I seriously doubt he even tried to arrange a payment plan with the utility companies. What a windfall of bills FD probably had... JMO
What if others were funding his bail, though FD qualified as "indigent"?
It's nothing interesting and its sealed It just states hes dead. Read the civil ones they're copy pasted
State Sen. Alex Bergstein unveiled her proposal Friday for the Child Safety First Bill – the same week that the Jennifer Dulos case made headlines across the nation.
Before Jennifer Dulos disappeared on May 24, she was in the middle of a contentious and drawn out divorce case with Fotis Dulos. Hundreds of motions were filed over two years, including ones where she told the court she feared for her life.
“Such cases are often labeled ‘high conflict,’ but that's a misnomer,” says Bergstein. “These cases are often the results of abusers weaponizing the legal system to harass, intimidate and destroy the person who dared to leave.”
Bergstein says there are many failures in the system that need to be addressed. Her proposed legislation focuses on one of them – child custody.
Currently, the Connecticut statute requires courts to look at domestic abuse among the 16 factors when determining what's in a child's best interest. Bergstein believes abuse is the most important factor and should be determined first.
“We stand here today seeking justice for Jennifer and for all the women and children whose lives have been lost,” Bergstein said Friday, surrounded by advocates. “Though we can't bring any of them back, we can work to ensure the safety of those who are still alive and suffering from abuse.”
Carrie Luft, a close friend of Jennifer Dulos, was also in attendance to hear the proposal. She's acted as spokesperson for the family for more than seven months but did not wish to speak to News 12 on camera.
Child Safety First Bill would put abuse as priority in child custody cases
From the other case:
HHD-CV18-6088971-S FARBER, GLORIA, EXECUTOR OF THE ESTATE OF HILLIARD v. DULOS, FOTIS Et Al
DOCKET NO: HHD-CV-18-6088970-S : SUPERIOR COURT GLORIA FARBER, as Executor of the : J.D. OF HARTFORD Estate of HILLIARD FARBER, V. : AT HARTFORD FORE GROUP, INC. and FOTIS DULOS : JANUARY 31, 2020 ________________________________________________________________________ DOCKET NO.: HHD-CV-18-6088971-S : SUPERIOR COURT GLORIA FARBER, as Executor of the : J.D. OF HARTFORD Estate of HILLIARD FARBER V. : AT HARTFORD FOTIS DULOS : JANUARY 31, 2020 SUGGESTION OF DEATH The plaintiff in the above-entitled matter hereby gives notice of the death of the defendant Fotis Dulos on January 30, 2020 from carbon monoxide poisoning. PLAINTIFF, By______/s/____________ Richard P. Weinstein, Esquire of
Yes. I was thinking he must've still had her in the 'lovebombing phase' and had not shown her the hot-cold yet? But would he have been able to hold it together when she was staying at 4JC? I wonder if she had started to see his temper, etc.
I never felt more safe in my life than with the Malignant N/Sociopath. I literally believed he would take a bullet for me. He was my hero and protector. Little did I know I was in so much danger. I have strong empathic traits.
10ofRods wrote- Bonus Round: I am guessing AC is the Executor, so...we shall see. I could be wrong about all of this.
So maybe the promise that she could confiscate
his personal belongings to pay back her loss of
Wonder if he had a will? Must have if he named
Wonder if there was talk of suicide with him?
I don’t know. It’s weird. She clearly has money and he clearly doesn’t or he wouldn’t need her help. It’s mysterious. Why such a bond with him? I mean we’ve heard that people found him to be “a great guy” because of his charming veneer and fancy house selling company, but I don’t get it. Maybe he was a good enough actor that people he kept at somewhat arms length thought he was wonderful.