Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #47

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  1. BellaVita

    BellaVita Well-Known Member

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    Just want to make clear that you are preaching to the choir. FD and MT were the Perfect Storm! Had an MT in my own life. Not cutting her any slack.
     


  2. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    IMO its not as intuitively obvious to 'get someone' that is simply a 'ghost' for lack of a better description. MT for lack of a better description is simply an 'empty being'. Nothing there and a perfect foil for someone like Fd. But, this doesn't mean she is weak or that she isn't dangerous. Nope. IMO is a predator. She is a predator of other peoples husbands and boyfriends and possessions and she is motivated solely by what feels good and what makes her feel safe which IMO is money and the more of it the better. In the world of MT IMO, GREED IS GOOD!

    These folks have no moral core and are all about 'whatever works' or 'whatever feels good' and so they morph into whatever they need to survive and cope in the relationship that they happen to be in.

    But, make no mistake, these folks aren't weak and in their own way IMO they are quite dangerous because they have no boundaries and are willing to do whatever it takes, including masterminding possibly a murder, to get what they want or what they believe might make them feel better.

    These people IMO are hollow with nothing inside. We have seen no remorse, interest, zero affect etc. from MT and that simply is who she is and how she rolls as she doesn't give a [REDACTED] about anyone else other than herself. Its simply that she doesn't give a [REDACTED] about anyone else other than herself and how she feels and IMO that was why we saw her crying her faux tears in Court in October when it was clear she had been replaced by AC and MT was sadly having to be bothered by being in Court being charged yet again.

    If you go back to the brilliant pictures that the Daily Mail took at 4Jx when LE showed up to take Fd and MT to Litchfield for DNA testing to me they were quite telling. Who did we see talking and interacting and directing LE? Was it Fd? Nope, IT WAS MT! MT was front and center dealing with LE that day and we saw Fd hanging back and crossing his arms and possibly trying to hide his anxiety and poison ivy. Those pictures IMO told us a lot about the Fd/MT relationship and how Fd defined the role of MT and how she stepped up and filled it. Nope, I think we saw co-dependancy on a whole new level in those photos and I think the relationship between these 2 co-conspirators was such that each knew what the other was thinking and MT knew at all times what she had to do to keep Fd in line and how she was to meet his demands and expectations.

    MOO
     
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  3. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    Haha! Nope, I know when someone needs to 'school us all' on the characteristics of the narcopath that you are quite simply 'the best'! I consistently underestimate them and you ALWAYS bring us back to center and focus us where we need to be. Much appreciated BTW as I struggle mightily with the narcopath headset.

    I look forward to seeing your Bestseller on Amazon!

    "Everything you wanted to know about the Narcopath in Your Life but were too afraid to Ask by Someone that had Sadly Lived IT!

    Lived and Written by: BELLA VITA!!!!

    MOO
     
  4. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    In thinking more about Michele Troconis I was going through my list of open questions and I wondered if we know any more about the death of her twin brother (I believe)?

    Did this death happen when she was 15?

    How did the death impact her and her family?

    Did she see the death happen and what were the circumstances?

    Did she have any role in the death or advance notice?

    Was the death of her twin tied in any way to her parents sending her away when she was 15?

    This experience I would think would be trauma filled for anyone but I wonder how it impacted Michele Troconis?

    When watching MT I am always stuck by absence of affect and so I wonder greatly if she has the capacity of emotion or empathy and when she said she, "...wasn't cleaning Jennifer" was their any emotion in that statement other than basic statement of fact with no appreciation of the horror that such a statement would generate in most thinking and feeling fellow human beings?

    MOO
     
  5. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    KMmerc2011gl450.png KMHondacivic2012lx.png KM2006BMWM3.png

    KM Car Fleet based on the info posted earlier for 2018 tax year (we don't know vehicle colors):

    1. 2006 BMW X3
    2. 2011 Mercedes GL450
    3. 2012 Honda Civic LX
     
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  6. Dacaesar

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    The ultimate example of gaslighting.
     
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  7. sds71

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    Another memorial to Jennifer Dulos has appeared at Reservoir #6 in West Hartford. Area has been the subject of searches by state police. Despite internet rumor to the contrary —there are no official reports of any significant findings here.@FOX61News
    Matt Caron on Twitter
     
  8. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    Good to see that Matt Caron and FOX61 are "ON IT" and dispelling internet rumours!

    MOO
     
  9. BellaVita

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    Don't know how the death affected MT. Everyone is different. My sister passed away from cancer at age 18. I was 17 months older. During her illness which lasted 10 months, I became a different person. I went crazy and impulsive knowing that life could end at anytime no matter how careful or good I was. I lived for the moment. I still do in a way. The greatest risk brings the greatest reward. It's very scary as a young person. My father blamed himself. Nothing was ever talked about. It's all very interesting and really does affect your life but morals are already in place by age 15. You had morals by then or you didn't. MOO.
    ETA: My parents had very high morals. Doesn't seem that way with MT family. I would have been disowned for moving in with a married guy with 5 kids. Definitely disowned for Albany Ave. On the other hand, a guy I went all thru school with came from a terrible family and he became a police officer and later on, a lawyer. It's always a choice.
     
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  10. EAGD

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    Question:

    Is the SW we have include the total of KM materials that were searched/confiscated or is it possible that we may see another SW for him.

    I wonder about the boat, his vehicles, phone(s), etc...

    TY
     
  11. Laughing

    Laughing Rarely Speechless

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    Really good book about what happens in one family when one of a pair of twins dies:

    The Other by Thomas Tryon

    and the movie, screenplay by Thomas Tyron, the novel's author:

    The Other (1972) - IMDb

    The book is terrific, I've yet to see the movie but will check Netflicks.


    Family dynamics: three daughters, one son, and the only son passes away as a child/youth?

    IMHO that's going to impact a family. Yup. Whether from illness or accident, that's a game-changer.

    Maybe someone can sniff out an obituary & likely translate from Spanish?

    The whitewash story states that Dr. Troconis practiced in the Dominican Republic, and where else?

    Gives us something to do beyond refer newbies to the Media Thread, eh?

    JMHO YMMV
     
  12. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    Will have to check this out!

    Dr T practiced in Caracas, Italy, US (TN for residency and Miami practice) and CO too.

    Carlos Troconis | CTSNet
     
  13. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    Yes, Atty Colangelo said the investigation is 'ongoing'.

    I still am wondering about another 'conspiracy to commit murder' charge possibility for his STBX. Its tricky as Fd was IMO the other 'co conspirator' and is dead but I do wonder also if MT might have had some involvement or awareness of this ongoing situation.

    Interesting times.....


    MOO
     
  14. enelram

    enelram STAY HOME-CONTAIN THE VIRUS

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    Remember KM wasn't even interviewed until June 9th so he had 16 days to clean up, clean out his things and he probably threw the phone
    away as he said he cracked the lens when he fell and got his pseudo concussion. That may be why a phone isn't mentioned.
    Again, the turtle slow speed of parts of this investigation is infuriating.
     
  15. Curious in CT

    Curious in CT Well, Hot Dog!

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    @Ruminations , what is Michelle Troconis' "theory" regarding where Jennifer's body was at "some point"?
    Fotis Dulos is d.e.a.d. What do the living know (and have possibly done) that will help the Farberdulos family see justice?

     
  16. Alathea

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    IMO the psychological profile of MT is frankly not any different from Fd and her character flaws and many shortcomings frankly IMO rival those of Fd.

    Agreed! I think MT was, in fact, the quiet power behind it all in a way we haven't discussed yet. Sure, she'll claim in court to have been "under Fd's power" - but when you think about it - that makes no sense. Here's what I mean:

    Fd was a serial philanderer. He cheated before, and likely would again. If it were all truly up to Fd, he most likely would have preferred to have MT on the side, in the shadows, and keep his family and kids and house and money from the in-laws, until he tired of MT - which he would have - and in fact, did.

    MT didn't have money, influence, youth or, really, much to hold onto him for long. He had to sense this.

    So why did he throw everything away for her? Because she was manipulative, she WAS the power - and/or involved in something shady with him that she held over HIS head.

    It really only makes sense that SHE was the one who wanted to move into the house - why would he want that, knowing he'd lose everything? His wife, family, the money coming into his business from the Farbers, eventually - everything.

    It makes more sense that SHE would want to establish herself as THE woman of the household - and so, insisted in moving in. He could have kept a relationship going with her on the side if she had not insisted - many men do for many years.

    But that wasn't enough for her.

    She also insisted in being part of the visitation once Jennifer moved out. Fd knew it was not okay with Jennifer. It was a huge, ongoing issue in court. If MT hadn't insisted, it would not likely have happened. But - instead of her stepping back - she continued to interfere, even though it was soon written as being against visitation stipulations. It was such a huge problem that they asked the children to lie about it (instead of, again, MT just stepping back) - which became an even bigger problem. In that way it was because of MT's continued interference that visitation stopped, IIRC.

    Why didn't she just stop being around during visitation, and let Fd deal with his divorce on his own? Fd complained about the lack of visitation, so why didn't he stop her involvement in them? Apparently, he was not able to.

    Did she also insist on having Jennifer completely out of the picture, instead of stepping back?

    She was very jealous, they argued all the time. MT appeared to need to be with Fd at all times. To check up on him?

    Why did she get so angry that he had gone to visit the kids in NC and hadn't told her about it? (She found out from LE, I believe.)

    MT was not the type to be pushed around. She had to realize she wasn't going to be in it with Fd - or even his type - for the long haul - how else would she hang onto FD?

    I have a feeling we will learn a lot more about MT's running the show in ways we don't know and can't even imagine, yet.

    ETA: Typed this very quickly before laptop dies, so I hope it makes sense - apologies for some redundancy!
     
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  17. Ruminations

    Ruminations Eating ice cream.

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    I take that as a rhetorical question, which chatterbox Rumonations will answer anyway.

    I think the AW was telling us that MT was telling LE that she knew Jennifer was a body, aka dead. And she was transported in the Tacoma "at some point."

    Therefore, even in the absolutely most generous interpretation of her involvement in the murder, even if you think "but player" rather than "driver of the whole thing," it is known...

    That Michelle Troconis had information that could have helped LE locate the body and she didn't provide it. That is inexcusable. I don't get her or others supporting her. If she were my family I would not march around the court house or spend one dime for her legal troubles until she told all.
     
  18. citygirl

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    Contrast that with her latest appearance in court.
    Her lover Fotis Dulos was dead.
    She ( on the arm of her father ) and her sisters and mother and friends paraded in to court well dressed and well-coiffed seemingly not understanding the gravity of being charged with conspiracy to a murder.
    With not a hint of grieving for the man whose house they had stayed and partied in.
    They appeared buoyed by their new attorney.
    He says English is her second language!
    This has all been lost in translation.
    She is a two bit player.
    An innocent bystander.
    Let us explain and clear this whole issue up.
    In the mean time, she needs time to sell her unique fabrics, go to the salon, Starbucks etc. to maintain her sense of well being during this stressful time of being on lock down in a 1000 sq foot town house.
    Pay no attention to arrest warrants 1 to 3.
    MOO.
     
  19. citygirl

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    Love your posts but we don't know that.
    Remains to be seen.
    MOO.
     
  20. citygirl

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    Totally agree with this observation. She was front and center.MOO.
     
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