Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by doodles1211, May 26, 2019.
My prediction is AC.
In any event, I doubt that we will be truly satisfied with the outcome/amt of prison time that comes out of the prosecution of these other two. It does seem as if Ct has little interest anymore in pursuing justice for Jennifer’s family, based at least on the civil matters. And with Fd gone, so goes their main target. I, for one, will be disappointed, but not surprised, if the MT trial ends up being moved to Hartford to accommodate JS. And I won’t be surprised if MT and KM end up with very little time in prison. This infuriates me.
That might be the Melanie McGuire case in NJ... JMO
She was my nurse at RMANJ.
Nice,sweet and encouraging.
I agree, and it makes me wonder if there is anything legally that GF and her attorneys can do or must they simply accept this travesty of justice?
Wow-you must have been stunned when she got arrested!
I don’t know-she can’t even sue him civilly for killing Jennifer. And the judge in the prior civil case seems to have forgotten all about it, having not rendered a decision
I'm with you on this question 100%. We've seen GF working behind the scenes to accommodate custody issues and getting protective orders in place. I do hope she/Atty Weinstein now step up and intervene to make sure that the case is prosecuted where JFd was murdered in New Canaan, CT. Atty Colangelo has been in his position for many years and IMO is well placed to understand possible 'regional' differences in the Criminal System in CT. I very much hope and pray that the cases stay in Stamford so that we have a shot at seeing some justice for JFd occur.
To see such frivolous motions filed by MT New Atty to me seems to be in line with the tactics displayed by KM and then Atty BM in Civil Court for months at a time. Sad, but not unexpected of him IMO based on his display during his first hearing in Stamford where IMO he was absolutely unprepared.
A long catalog of reasons IMO exist to NOT move the case to Hartford - IMO this harkens back in many respects to the 'tale of 2 Connecticuts' thats been talked about many threads ago and the perception that 'justice is still very much for sale in Hartford' unfortunately. There is no doubt in my mind that MT New Atty is seeking a venue change for his personal convenience but also because of the reality of what exactly 'justice' in Hartford looks like and has looked like for many years IMO. Further he has practiced in/around Hartford for over 25 years and so most likely precisely knows how to 'insure' that 'justice as he wants it work does in fact work to his favor'. Hate to be cynical but IMO the move of MT New Atty is absolutely cynical ploy designed to control the outcome of things for his client.
Hate to say all this about Hartford, but IMO to not say this about Hartford now would be like not addressing the elephant in the room. Do all agree about this issue? Nope, IMO the view from Hartford is always 'nothing to be seen here and just keep it moving' as nothing is ever wrong in Hartford as the system works for those that are part of the system IMO.
Its not just Hartford Courts, its the Farmington PD games that have happened most recently with the Fd firearms and the Fd death investigation and taking over an hr to enter 4Jx and over 24 hrs to get a search warrant after Fd gassed himself in the 4Jx garage. And then we saw South Windsor PD protecting KM when he was playing games with his STBX and harassing her but stayed on public roads and South Windsor PD choosing to do nothing which was no different from what they did with the gas can crowbar guy IMO. Then there is the Avon PD and their so called 'investigation' into the death of Mama Dulos. Sadly, I think corruption or corruptibility is endemic in Hartford such that it would be hard for me to accept any trial outcome as valid as it related to MT and KM and any other charged. Don't get me wrong, Stamford is far from perfect as we have seen with Judge Blawie but I do strongly believe that the citizens of the communities surrounding the location of the murder ought to see justice for JFd meted out locally and not 75 miles away!
For a flavour of where I am going with reference to the catalog of reasons I think we can look at something that is relatively current which was the situation with Judge Noble in Civil Court. Under the 'management' of Judge Noble we saw motions not responded to, responses to motion bearing little connection to the original request and long delays in responding to other motions and it took over 14 months to consolidate cases to make prosecution easier - the deck was stacked against Atty Weinstein IMO and I have many questions as to how it might have been orchestrated by KM and others but I will leave it at that. Under Judge Noble, we had the mismanaged circus of the MT deposition, the attorneys not being held to procedure as seen in the Atty Bowman infamous 'REDACTED' motion and ditto for the Atty. P. deposition which IMO should be investigated by the CT authorities as the Judges Orders there IMO read as if Judge Noble was AP's personal atty and were unlike anything I have ever read. The trial itself was probably another text book example IMO of procedural shambles as we saw any attempt at procedure with regards to evidence simply abandoned at the door as Judge Noble allowed in evidence from the Defendants that any other Court IMO would have not even entered into a discussion about.
IMO little that was seen in the Civil Court mess provides any encouragement that justice would prevail for JFd in Hartford Criminal Courts unfortunately. Politics in CT is largely a behind closed door kind of activity and I'm not sure 'justice' is much different unfortunately. I do think it will be a huge sign from the CT Judiciary if the case is permitted to move to Hartford as to me that is simply a 'coded' message for we are sweeping this under the rug and things will be take care of quietly. I hope to see some leadership on this issue from Atty Colangelo but at this point with little pushback from the public about having the trial in Stamford and no vocal public support of the victim from the victims family much anymore, I sadly won't be surprised if this all just gets jammed under the carpet to wither in Hartford. Losing faith in CT govt and LE systems has been an ongoing process for me on this case, watching everything that has gone on in Courts around the State and with LE on this case has been one of the most disheartening experiences following a case I have ever had unfortunately. I will continue to follow along to make sure that some justice process happens but there is little anymore that would surprise me about CT Courts. Little. And that makes me quite sad.
Attorney Hug seems to indicate that both of the Farber suits should be ruled by March 12. See SDS71's post on the previous page. Post #648.
Reading l-r on the top row of attachments, it's the 3rd one.
We were also stunned at the Dr. she was having the affair with!!!
In the Melanie McGuire (NJ) case, her trial didn't happen until 3 years after the murder; she was convicted, and isn't getting out before she's 100.
There is hope for this case (convictions of MT and KM) yet.
I hope so-these two have got to go to prison.
I hope it stays in Judge White's wheelhouse.
Having said that, Jennifer spent many years living in the Farmington Valley.
Avon and Farmington and her children went to school in West Hartford.
Those people are invested .People that knew and loved her.
In addition to that, they dumped all those bags on Albany Ave. in the north end of Hartford.
Yes! Totally agree and I didn't mean in any way to make it seem that I wasn't considering the people that care about JFd and her children in/around Hartford. Nope. Totally get your POV. My issue is that we have seen so many squirrelly things happed between LE and the Courts that I really have doubts about the process of obtaining justice for this particular case outside of Stamford. This being said, however, no place is ever perfect all the time I just think there is a better shot at justice in Stamford for JFd.
Afitzy- you've described the whole conundrum I wrestled with the entire time I lived there. Society is so backwards, so upside down that it's like a big broken wheel spinning out of control. I kept waiting for that wheel to eventually break down or fall apart but it never happened. It just keeps spinning around, off kilter, but never the less it keeps going. And then the good ones, the ones who fight the good fight, standing by their beliefs etc. get so taken advantage of that it comes down to two choices, you either join them and lose your moral compass or leave. The whole if you can't beat, them join them mentality. I saw this first hand, within my own family. I resisted to the point it was going to kill me if I didn't get out. My husband, on the other hand, succumbed to it and I watched the smartest man I have ever known head down a path of destruction I am not sure he can come back from. Does any of that make sense?
thekirbyfamily.....I am glad you are out of there, safe and sound now. I will pray for husband. I understand what you are saying....just a different town. We all got out. Our adult children still make comments about this town and say they never ever will go back or near the place again. Healing and love to all of you.
Afitzy....thank you ever so much for all your explanations, comments and updates. I don’t think I can ever stop thanking you enough. I get so engrossed reading I forget to look who the WS member is that wrote the comment, but I immediately know when I am reading yours....I would follow you on any case here on WS. Thank you for making it easier for many of us to follow what is going on. There are many other WS members that do this also...and to all of you thanks so many times!
Ms. Josie - thank you so much for these kind words. I am desperately trying to get him out of there now too so I can get him help and on the right path. People say to me all the time things couldn't be that bad or it must just be things that happened to us but I have never seen such things anywhere. Every single day was a testament to survival.
I agree. afitzy's dedication to this thread has been outstanding.
The law might be interpreted that the case should go back to Bridgeport.