AMBER ALERT CT - Vanessa Morales, 1, missing after mother found deceased, Ansonia, 28 Nov 2019

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  1. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    The dogs shown in Tony Terzi and Marissa Alter's videos look like they're following a scent along the trail-the videos I've seen of cadaver dogs at work usually show them making more back and forth, searching movements.

    Maybe I'm just being foolishly optimistic.
     


  2. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    But isn't this individual (father) in custody? Also, never realized that a stun gun is considered a weapon which felons are prohibited from having/owning. o_O
     
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  3. JediChick

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    Praying you're right.
     
  4. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    It seems to me that the "unrelated arrest" (i.e., criminal possession of an electronic defense weapon) was a gift to LE allowing the father held in lieu of $250,000 bond pending Dec 18 hearing.

    Also, important to note that there is a stipulation that even if Morales is able to post bond, he can’t be released without a judge’s approval.
     
  5. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yeah, it’s “unrelated,” yet absolutely related. Make no mistake, he’s being held for the purpose of investigating him in relation to this crime.
     
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  7. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    I'm not certain that information from the Community Crusade for Children Inc. clearinghouse came to investigators specifically via the "tip line" for this case.

    I understood several tips and leads came in after the amber alert issued including videos from door Ring cameras in the area of Derby Ave, as well as reports of a vehicle with a child inside that turned out to be the granddaughter of the car owner.

    While it may be nothing applicable, I hope the donation bin has relevant evidence since the boxes are contained.

    Tearful aunt pleads ‘keep her safe’ to whomever has 1-year-old Vanessa
     
  8. oviedo

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    We need a map with this latest request IMO - doesn't @otto work on them???

    ETA - anyone can do a map - I know we have locals on this thread so please feel free to jump in - perhaps start at her home - map out the televised search locations? it's a start.
     
  9. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    It's definitely more than the weapons here....

    On Tuesday morning, police were at the New Haven home of the child’s father, Jose Morales, 43. They conducted a search at his First Avenue home and towed his car. Officers found two stun guns in the residence, and arrested him.

    Lynch said Thursday that Morales’ arrest was “not related to the homicide or missing person investigation...The father is cooperative.”
     
  10. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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  11. Alkali13

    Alkali13 Wannabe Criminalist

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    I'll try to make a map, but that sounds a lot like they know which route was taken by what I'm seeing...
     
  12. 0101ABA

    0101ABA Former Member

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    Thanks to everyone for the updates, you are all such sweet souls! I’m back online and able to follow more closely now so I greatly appreciate being caught up.
     
  13. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yeah, and if I recall, one of the warrants required that he be brought to the police station.

    That warrant would have almost certainly been for his body (fingerprints, hair, DNA, and photographs to document any injuries he may have sustained).
     
  14. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    I think there's hope that VM is alive based on investigators jumping through hoops to change the silver alert (endangered) to amber alert when there is no vehicle involved. Seems they did this to also get “as many eyes on the child’s photo as possible”

    Police released a Silver Alert for Vanessa on Tuesday. On Wednesday afternoon, they issued an Amber Alert for her. Lynch said the reason they sent the Amber Alert out was to get “as many eyes on the child’s photo as possible” but would not specify why they waited after sending out the Silver Alert. Lynch did say police have “no reason to believe” anyone has taken Vanessa across state lines.

    The Amber Alert gives only a description of Vanessa, with no information about a vehicle or information whether she may be with someone.

    Tearful aunt pleads ‘keep her safe’ to whomever has 1-year-old Vanessa
     
  15. Beth11311

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    Oh absolutely there is more to this than just the weapons. I should have been more clear: I absolutely believe that JM is involved in this up to his eyeballs.

    You also don't commit a crime of this magnitude and avoid getting blood spatter/spray/misting on your person - which would easily transfer to a car etc. as you leave the scene. I'm sure that they are testing for DNA evidence and I'm sure that they will find it.
     
  16. Alkali13

    Alkali13 Wannabe Criminalist

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    Please excuse the CRUDE map I made. The street all the way to the South where the lines end is Main Street, which eventually turns into Derby Avenue (where the Kiducation bins/police dogs are). The fact that they are completely ignoring the alternate routes between Myrtle and Main is a little odd to me.
     

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    Beth11311 Well-Known Member

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    This. All the physical evidence.

    What are your thoughts on baby V and the likelihood that she is still alive? I always like hearing your perspective on cases. As we know, the longer the time is that passes, the worse things tend to look...
     
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    sds71 Well-Known Member

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    @MarissaAlter


    This message just went out requesting surveillance video from specific locations in Ansonia to help find Vanessa Morales. See details below.
    @News12CT
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    Anyone know what kind of car he has?
     
  20. afitzy

    afitzy STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES!

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    Derby police, according to a screen shot posted in a Derby Facebook moms group, put out a request Thursday asking for Ring video from any Ring recording devices in the area of Derby Avenue from Division Street in Ansonia to New Haven Avenue to the Orange town line.

    Note: I looked for an official bulletin from either Derby, CT or Ansonia, PD on this request and haven't found anything.

    Here is a rough map of this 13.2 mile path based on the details provided above:

    خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏
     
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